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Old 08-19-2008, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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A 14-year-old school boy in eastern India has been arrested on suspicion of murdering a younger student who refused to give him her Ipod, police said Tuesday.

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So, India is moving right up the ladder of depravity, with the US as an example, with killing persons for electronic gadgets, clothing, shoes, bling, etc., the US certainly sets the "gold standard" for violence and materialism!

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Old 08-19-2008, 09:56 AM
 
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India has always been a place where human life is treated as less than sacred. Think of the caste system. And a visit to the streets of Mumbai is proof enough. Squalid does not begin to describe the way so many people live there.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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India has always been a place where human life is treated as less than sacred. Think of the caste system. And a visit to the streets of Mumbai is proof enough. Squalid does not begin to describe the way so many people live there.
india also has 3 times the population is 3 times smaller than the US. that's a factor of 9 in terms of total pop density. imagine if the US was under those conditions, and we'll see how squalid it gets.

all cultures have had their black marks in terms of human equality. the US had slavery, india had the caste system.

let me know when the US can break the 2 party hegemony and actually have multiple parties have some power like india, as well as a woman prime minister and presidents who didn't practice the dominant religion of the country (india has had muslim presidents and currently has a sikh prime minsiter).
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:44 AM
 
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india also has 3 times the population is 3 times smaller than the US. that's a factor of 9 in terms of total pop density. imagine if the US was under those conditions, and we'll see how squalid it gets.

all cultures have had their black marks in terms of human equality. the US had slavery, india had the caste system.

let me know when the US can break the 2 party hegemony and actually have multiple parties have some power like india, as well as a woman prime minister and presidents who didn't practice the dominant religion of the country (india has had muslim presidents and currently has a sikh prime minsiter).
Doesn't India still have the caste system?
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:55 AM
 
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Doesn't India still have the caste system?
the caste system exists in that, in rural/village india it is still adhered to by the locals. in urban india, inter caste mairrage is common. Time will remove the caste system as india continues its development.

from an 'official' standpoint, caste is used as race is used here. for affirmitive action. However, 'forward' or 'higher' castes have protested this greatly due to claims of reverse discrimination. This mirrors the affirmitive action argument somewhat here. Not exactly though because the majority of india i believe aren't the most 'forward' castes but in the US affirmitive action is designed to help those in the minority.

i'm not going to say india doesn't have ways to grow in terms of rights. however, it is tough to compare completely different cultures and situations. india can learn a lot from the US, as it has and will continue to do so, and the US can learn a lot from india and espesicially forge stronger ties with india since both the US and india have a huge interest in ridding pakistan of terrorists.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:04 AM
 
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the US certainly sets the "gold standard" for violence and materialism!
Are you one of those America haters?
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:36 AM
 
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India has always been a place where human life is treated as less than sacred. Think of the caste system. And a visit to the streets of Mumbai is proof enough. Squalid does not begin to describe the way so many people live there.
Yeah, I know. The sacred cows in India are treated with more respect than human beings.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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Are you one of those America haters?
No, but I am a realist and I know where a lot of the bad s*** originates from and it p***** me off to no end! The US is suppose to set the standard for the rest of the world, unfortunately, the present society in the US is looking a lot like the final days of the Roman Empire!
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:00 PM
 
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The US is suppose to set the standard for the rest of the world, unfortunately, the present society in the US is looking a lot like the final days of the Roman Empire!
Why, because all we want are cake and circus? Seems like it.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:10 PM
 
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The US is suppose to set the standard for the rest of the world
Really? Why do you think that?

Not being snarky, I just never envisioned the US of all nations as the one to set global standards for good citizenry, civilized behavior, crime fighting, or whatever it is you mean.
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