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Old 06-10-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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We export one million barrels of oil everyday now. We don't need their oil.
Crazy thing is we probably import more at the same time.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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We export one million barrels of oil everyday now. We don't need their oil.
It's more complex that that. If you follow the money, there are some super-wealthy Americans who do need those contracts (oil and others) with the Saudis to continue, whether it's to the benefit of other Americans or not.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Let's get this straight. Sharia law is not a part of the American judicial system period. Can you call yourself an American citizen and not be aware of the laws of your own country? Part of the dumbing down of this country by ignorant and ill informed people.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:26 PM
 
Location: My House
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Not really clear on the point of these. We already have laws. We have federal and state laws.

None of them are religious laws.

So, what are these marches about?

I expect similar marches to complain whenever states try to pass Christian laws, too.

Constitution forbids them.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ZEh1g5TLk
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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Let's get this straight. Sharia law is not a part of the American judicial system period. Can you call yourself an American citizen and not be aware of the laws of your own country? Part of the dumbing down of this country by ignorant and ill informed people.
No one to my knowledge said it was.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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Not really clear on the point of these. We already have laws. We have federal and state laws.

None of them are religious laws.

So, what are these marches about?

I expect similar marches to complain whenever states try to pass Christian laws, too.

Constitution forbids them.
Maybe as we develop and actually read the thread we can learn what these marches are about. Maybe....
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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Let's get this straight. Sharia law is not a part of the American judicial system period. Can you call yourself an American citizen and not be aware of the laws of your own country? Part of the dumbing down of this country by ignorant and ill informed people.

I used to think the fear of Sharia was overblown and that anti-Sharia laws were unfounded and unnecessary.

But I've discovered this is a major tactic of the "soft" Salafism/Wahabbism that is the prevalent Islamic doctrine being taught in the West (propelled by oil money from the Saudi peninsula). Salafist Muslims in the West--in America-- are, indeed, pushing it in the court rooms. And there are some legal weaknesses, such as past cases in which courts have given consideration to foreign laws to make judgments.

As the guy said, "We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger."
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:37 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I used to think the fear of Sharia was overblown and that anti-Sharia laws were unfounded and unnecessary.

But I've discovered this is a major tactic of the "soft" Salafism/Wahabbism that is the prevalent Islamic doctrine being taught in the West (propelled by oil money from the Saudi peninsula). Salafist Muslims in the West--in America-- are, indeed, pushing it in the court rooms. And there are some legal weaknesses, such as past cases in which courts have given consideration to foreign laws to make judgments.

As the guy said, "We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger."
So, by all means, let's continue to march while we continue to arm the Saudi's and kiss their ring.

Nothing conflicted about that.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: My House
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I used to think the fear of Sharia was overblown and that anti-Sharia laws were unfounded and unnecessary.

But I've discovered this is a major tactic of the "soft" Salafism/Wahabbism that is the prevalent Islamic doctrine being taught in the West (propelled by oil money from the Saudi peninsula). Salafist Muslims in the West--in America-- are, indeed, pushing it in the court rooms. And there are some legal weaknesses, such as past cases in which courts have given consideration to foreign laws to make judgments.

As the guy said, "We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger."
This is why I have always been so against ANY laws based on religion.

I don't want Christian laws to be the law of the land. Or Jewish. Or Muslim.

I want NONE OF IT.

We keep religion out of law and we'll all be just fine.

Being too friendly with the Saudis, politically, is a bad idea.
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