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This isn't an issue over day of worship, what to eat or not to eat, etc... which is the common issues between Christian doctrines. It is an issue of Sufi's making wild interpretations to avoid dealing with Islam itself. It is similar to those who refuse to accept the teachings of the Bible as it concerns homosexuality being a sin in order to promote their version of it.
The problem with Islam is you truly have no clue who is lying and who is telling the truth for the main directive of Islam is clear and lying to achieve such is acceptable if it promotes such.
How do you tell the difference between those who follow true Islam and those who pick and choose what they like? This is the real issue and by the time you get to a position where they may be in power, it is too late.
What we do know is what Islam states, what it requires, and what it promotes. One can dismiss from it parts as one likes, and even twist to extreme means to justify an alternate accepted meaning, but that does not change what it truly is, nor its very wide history of oppression on the world.
What you are missing here is that there is no way to interpret the New Testament, and Christs teachings in a manner to be other than it is (not without sounding ignorant and devious), but the Koran is VERY clear as to its core teachings and purpose.
There is no comparison because the problem with Islam is not someones interpretation, it is Islam itself.
You can act and make a claim and I can directly point to the Bible and within context, show you that you are wrong. Islam is not the same, as one has to create a means to explain away its teachings in abstract in order to make it "peaceful". This is the problem.
Sufism is a denial, some are disbelief, some are heresy and not kufr, because the path to be followed is the path of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This is the view of Muslims about Sufism
How can they express true Islam?
But their misinterpretation in the interpretation of the text is invalid interpretations.
Anti Sharia law marches taking place across the country today. Its bringing out the loony left who support terrorist.
Their message is :
“Sharia is incompatible with our Constitution and with American values. We stand against female genital mutilations and child marriages.”
For everyone's information, Sharia Law can apply only to Muslims. It cannot apply to those who do not believe in it. It cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in USA or any other country except in a Muslim majority country where the entire legal system rest on Islamic (Sharia) law. For example, Muslims should pay Zakat (charity money used only for the poor people). This cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in that country. Muslims are required to go, once in their lifetime, for pilgrimage (hajj) to Mecca. This cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in the country (only Muslims can enter Mecca).
In any case, most Muslim majority countries today do not enforce Sharia law even on Muslims. Most such countries have a mixture of secular and sharia laws.
And the most important thing about this issue is that Sharia law cannot override law of the country if it is a non-Islamic country. Muslims cannot break the law of the country in which they live.
I, as a Muslim, stand against female genital mutilation and child marriages. I am breaking no Sharia law by doing so.
Funny how some people are full of rage when they hear "Sharia" law, and march against it but you don't see them doing the same when male genital mutilation (read male circumcision) and child sex abuse is happening right now in their country.
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Loony left message :
“This rally is organized by a racist hate group and is meant to generate anti-Muslim bigotry. "
Things seem to be going well. Only one arrest being reported so far.
Peaceful protests are fine. The one arrested must have broken the law of the country.
Sufism is a denial, some are disbelief, some are heresy and not kufr, because the path to be followed is the path of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This is another of your ignorance or plain lies about Islam!
Sharia law is not exactly the path that Prophet followed but the path ordained by God (and is described in the Qur'an). There are many things that the Prophet did but are not required by Muslims to follow. If Muslims follow what Prophet Muhammad followed, they will all be living either in Mecca or Madina and never in Islamabad, New York or London.
This is another of your ignorance or plain lies about Islam!
Sharia law is not exactly the path that Prophet followed but the path ordained by God (and is described in the Qur'an). There are many things that the Prophet did but are not required by Muslims to follow. If Muslims follow what Prophet Muhammad followed, they will all be living either in Mecca or Madina and never in Islamabad, New York or London.
These are anti-Muslim hate groups, and I hope decent Americans resist these clowns.
There is no Sharia law anywhere in the West. Muslims leave the Middle East to get away from Sharia law, obviously.
It's made-up nonsense to get the Islamophobes and bigots together for a big "let's hate the Muslims and foreigners" idiotfest. Hopefully good Americans will be out in force against these clowns. Decent Americans will welcome Muslims.
Actually there are defacto sharia courts in Europe. They are not official, but the local muslim populations submit to their decisions. Typically in cultural decisions like divorce where females are at a massive disadvantage.
Sufism is a denial, some are disbelief, some are heresy and not kufr, because the path to be followed is the path of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This is the view of Muslims about Sufism
How can they express true Islam?
But their misinterpretation in the interpretation of the text is invalid interpretations.
So what you and NxtGen are saying, essentially, is that there is no "legitimate" form of Islam that is compatible with the rest of civilization.
Anti Sharia law marches taking place across the country today. Its bringing out the loony left who support terrorist.
Their message is :
“Sharia is incompatible with our Constitution and with American values. We stand against female genital mutilations and child marriages.”
Loony left message :
“This rally is organized by a racist hate group and is meant to generate anti-Muslim bigotry. "
Things seem to be going well. Only one arrest being reported so far.
Contributing to inevitable civil war in this country. I feel sorry for my children's generation and those thereafter. We are really screwing up this country for the future.
For everyone's information, Sharia Law can apply only to Muslims. It cannot apply to those who do not believe in it. It cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in USA or any other country except in a Muslim majority country where the entire legal system rest on Islamic (Sharia) law. For example, Muslims should pay Zakat (charity money used only for the poor people). This cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in that country. Muslims are required to go, once in their lifetime, for pilgrimage (hajj) to Mecca. This cannot be forced upon non-Muslims in the country (only Muslims can enter Mecca).
In any case, most Muslim majority countries today do not enforce Sharia law even on Muslims. Most such countries have a mixture of secular and sharia laws.
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no it isn't, Sharia law is not anymore legally binding than the Peoples court or judge Judy.
It has been argued in Canadian and US courts when it has run afoul of national laws. That intent is to make it binding.
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