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Old 06-13-2017, 10:21 PM
 
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I would agree that a military strike would not be uncalled for. Russia could decide from there if they wanted to escalate. I would start with taking out some of their naval assets, and taking out known sources of their propaganda efforts. And then saying they could choose wether to continue into something larger....or not.



go ahead and let liberals lose their mantra of being the "anti war" party
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Well except for the massive amount of actual evidence.

Like this:
Russian Hack Into Illinois Election Database Worse Than Thought « CBS Chicago

And the statements by pretty much every intelligence agency in the world at this point.

Russia is playing with fire. Once a president with some actual guts comes along, they will pay. Will it be war? Probably not. Maybe just some truly nasty computer work. But I do in fact support actual violence for this, as do some others.
The mounting evidence is that Russian dressing colluded with salad in Trump Tower


The only evidence that's come to light is that the losers of the last election are still suffering election night butt hurt...the sooner you admit you lost the election and America won, the better off we will all be. I suggest treatment for Trump Disorder Syndrome (TDS).
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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If Washington decides to go to war with Russia over this hacking.what if they decided to do a draft? Would you agree? Why or why not?
Are you suicidal?
The exact number of nuclear warheads is a state secret and is therefore a matter of guesswork. The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 4,490 nuclear warheads, while the U.S. has 4,500; Russia has 1,790 active strategic nuclear warheads, compared with the U.S. having 1,750.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I would agree that a military strike would not be uncalled for. Russia could decide from there if they wanted to escalate. I would start with taking out some of their naval assets, and taking out known sources of their propaganda efforts. And then saying they could choose wether to continue into something larger....or not.
WTF?? This has to be among the most outlandish, loony statements I've read in the forums in a while. If not ever. Conduct a military strike against Russia over alleged hacking of a private, political organization's email accounts??

Why is the left so war-hungry? This Russia thing has gone on long enough. Time to cut the BS and get back in with our lives; most of the country already has, btw.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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WTF?? This has to be among the most outlandish, loony statements I've read in the forums in a while. If not ever. Conduct a military strike against Russia over alleged hacking of a private, political organization's email accounts??

Why is the left so war-hungry? This Russia thing has gone on long enough. Time to cut the BS and get back in with our lives; most of the country already has, btw.
The left isn't. Thats a completely nonsensical statement. *I* on the other hand think that attacking our elections is a act of war. Most liberals would disagree with me. Most here probably do as well, I am aware of that. But quite a few people agree with me as well.

We've tried reasoning with Russia on this, and they continued. We tried sanctions for other things-to no effect.

The choice you are presenting is:
Just give up and let them use truly advanced propaganda to determine all of our future elections. And thats just FINE right?

Its not. Do any of you have a alternative? Mostly I just see truly fascinating attempts to discredit something we do in fact have clear evidence of.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:57 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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If Washington decides to go to war with Russia over this hacking.what if they decided to do a draft? Would you agree? Why or why not?
Ridiculous.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:57 PM
 
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Are you suicidal?
The exact number of nuclear warheads is a state secret and is therefore a matter of guesswork. The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 4,490 nuclear warheads, while the U.S. has 4,500; Russia has 1,790 active strategic nuclear warheads, compared with the U.S. having 1,750.
Nuclear war goes both ways. Are the Russians suicidal enough to use them over a strictly military response to their initial act of war?

The answer is no. BOTH of us fear that. But the answer can't be to allow them to do things like this without serious repercussions.
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Well except for the massive amount of actual evidence.

Like this:
Russian Hack Into Illinois Election Database Worse Than Thought « CBS Chicago

And the statements by pretty much every intelligence agency in the world at this point.

Russia is playing with fire. Once a president with some actual guts comes along, they will pay. Will it be war? Probably not. Maybe just some truly nasty computer work. But I do in fact support actual violence for this, as do some others.
If I recall correctly, Illinois voted for Hillary.
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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If Washington decides to go to war with Russia over this hacking.what if they decided to do a draft? Would you agree? Why or why not?
Nope, for one because war is stupid and two, I would never fight for this country. The American experiment has come to an end. We are on verge of collapse as an empire.
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Old 06-13-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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If Washington decides to go to war with Russia over this hacking.what if they decided to do a draft? Would you agree? Why or why not?
The only one who should be drafted is Trump and perhaps his sons
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