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The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states.
Of course gun control doesn't work when one can simply drive a short distance across stateline and buy all the guns one can afford.
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"The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states."
Always with the excuses. It is a FEDERAL law NOT a state one that say a person from 1 state CANNOT buy a gun from ANOTHER state with out that gun being sent to a licensd FED gun dealer in the state of the purchaser.
The guns being brought are through ILLEGAL purchases, so stricter laws won't do squat.
"The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states."
Always with the excuses. It is a FEDERAL law NOT a state one that say a person from 1 state CANNOT buy a gun from ANOTHER state with out that gun being sent to a licensd FED gun dealer in the state of the purchaser.
The guns being brought are through ILLEGAL purchases, so stricter laws won't do squat.
For just a moment, let's turn our attention away from gun violence and focus on another aspect of the issue -- gangs.
My knowledge on this is probably no more than that of any non-inner city dweller who watches the occasional news story or something like TV's Gangland USA, but I'm sure that any law enforcement officer, particularly from a minority background, can provide a better, closer-to-the-street description.
We are a nation with a strong respect for freedom of expression; Voltaire's famous quote, paraphrased many times, that "I disagree with what you say, but must defend your right to say it." is central to what has come to be called the Enlightenment.
But all forms of expression, particularly "gang colors" are voluntary -- and individual -- until the absurd concept of collective action, which is the root of so many of our differences and abuses, is introduced.
This point -- individual accountability -- is central to so many of our differences; and regrettably, it is hate groups such as Black Lives Matter who are most determined not to allow to workings of the judicial system to draw a finer, but firmer line.
That lack of logical, empirical reasoning which targets those who clearly chose a criminal lifestyle (as opposed to the sincerely concerned and responsible, who would be made more vulnerable by the folly of "gun control") is the single largest root cause of the problems discussed here.
And I'm prepared t wait a long time for a response to this point.
Last edited by 2nd trick op; 07-05-2017 at 01:31 PM..
The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states.
Of course gun control doesn't work when one can simply drive a short distance across stateline and buy all the guns one can afford.
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"The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states."
Always with the excuses. It is a FEDERAL law NOT a state one that say a person from 1 state CANNOT buy a gun from ANOTHER state with out that gun being sent to a licensd FED gun dealer in the state of the purchaser.
The guns being brought are through ILLEGAL purchases, so stricter laws won't do squat.
So, genius, what EXACT LAX gun laws are you claiming?
"The guns came from more gun-lax neighboring states."
Always with the excuses. It is a FEDERAL law NOT a state one that say a person from 1 state CANNOT buy a gun from ANOTHER state with out that gun being sent to a licensd FED gun dealer in the state of the purchaser.
The guns being brought are through ILLEGAL purchases, so stricter laws won't do squat.
So, genius, what EXACT LAX gun laws are you claiming?
I don't understand (inserting extreme liberal dumbness here) how anyone can get killed by a gun in Chicago since guns are illegal... I'm sure people are dying of other causes since guns aren't allowed....
Pay attention to the loophole they mention in the news report and how easier it is to get guns (with just a driver's license) in IN vs IL.
Stricter laws in Indiana would absolutely discourage IL gang runners from buying there. That's implied by law enforcement in the video.
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I'll ask you again since you did not answer me the first time. It is Indiana's fault that criminals from Illinois are buying guns there? Sounds to me like blaming another state for Illinois' out of control criminal element.
1. The success in busting large gang leaders have scattered the minions to form small gangs that war with each other, with no gang leadership capable of putting a stop to it or uniting the small gangs into one brotherhood.
2. The easy access to guns that exacerbate the violence.
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Typical ideologue behavior. Molding facts to fit a preconceived conclusion rather than letting the facts drive the conclusion.
You assert that the problem is guns not policing. Ok. Show us your data. Show us how gun ownership rates correlate with gun homicides on a national level. They don't. So if that's not true on a large national scale then why is Chicago's murder rate soaring? You keep harping on this theme that the problem is criminals bringing guns into Chicago and yet your equation doesn't hold true in most other major American cities. They all have access to 'outside' guns and yet your model fails. For example in relatively gun-friendly Texas cities where gun control is no more stringent than in non-urban areas you see a decrease in homicides that is larger than the national average. How do you explain that? You can't because there is no correlation with gun ownership rates. Your argument that it's the "biggest" part of the problem is factually busted.
There is however a correlation between Chicago's homicides and its policing.
Arrests are down 30% this year. Criminals have become emboldened as a result of the decrease in arrests. Garry McCarthy — Chicago’s Police Superintendent up until a year ago — “officers are under attack, that is how they feel.”
The quality of policing has been deteriorating for a while. in 1991, 70 percent of murderers were arrested. By 2011, the arrest rate was down to 30 percent. This continued under Rahm Emanuel hitting a new low of 20 percent in 2016. The real number is even worse, because Chicago has been intentionally misclassifying murders, instead labeling them as subject to non-criminal “death investigations.”
From the Chicago Tribune - "Emanuel did three unfortunate things that hampered the Chicago police force. The mayor: closed down detective bureaus in Chicago's highest crime districts, relocating them to often distant locations; disbanded many gang task forces; and, in cooperation with the ACLU, instituted new, voluminous forms that have to be filled out by police each time they stop someone to investigate a crime. All this time filling out forms is time that can’t be spent policing neighborhoods. When you don’t catch criminals, the obvious result is more crime.
The detective bureau relocations have been disastrous. Detectives who had worked for years in high-crime neighborhoods suddenly found themselves working in other areas of the city, their hard-earned, neighborhood-specific knowledge of likely culprits and informants now rendered irrelevant. As one detective told Chicago Magazine, “All the expertise you once had is useless when you’re working on the other side of town. You might as well put me in a new city.” "
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