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To NATO allies, Trump offered an explicit commitment to the alliance’s founding principle of common defense, which he had failed to state unambiguously at a May meeting in Brussels. But he also again tweaked allies who he said were not contributing enough financially, taking credit for “billions and billions” coming into NATO as a result of his importuning members to pay more.
What's the point? This is stupid. If NATO member nations see no point in paying more, then why should they pay more?
The United States just keeps trying to shoehorn itself into the affairs of other regions. If the European nations don't value NATO as much as we do, then we're the idiots, not them! Why do Americans care more about Europe's security than the Europeans do? Again, these are our economic competitors, and spending billions of US taxpayer money on their defense while they take six week annual vacations and enjoy universal health coverage is insulting and SHOULD be insulting to the average American.
Because Trump thinks that everyone should pay more - except him, of course. This is part of the problem of hiring an ignorant so-called businessman with no experience in government. He thinks of everything in terms of profit and winner-take-all.
Didn't they all agree to pay a certain amount when they joined NATO? So why is it ok for them to pay less, and we make up the difference? Does that make sense to you or are you just blindly harping on Trump no matter what the issue is? The name calling makes it hard to have a conversation.
Didn't they all agree to pay a certain amount when they joined NATO? So why is it ok for them to pay less, and we make up the difference? Does that make sense to you or are you just blindly harping on Trump no matter what the issue is? The name calling makes it hard to have a conversation.
Who gives a damn about what they agreed to? They don't! The alliance is for THEIR security, not ours. So why do you want to demand that someone spends more money on their own security, and attempt to shame them into doing so by spending more of MY tax money when I don't need the damn alliance?
That's the height of stupidity. You can't see that?
People here want to gut entitlement spending, but they should be happy to kick in billions for NATO nations that don't wanna pony up? That makes sense to you?
You don't have universal healthcare, and you damn sure don't have six week paid vacations with cradle to grave social benefits....what other nation is subsidizing YOUR nation's defense while you vacation in Ibiza?
Who gives a damn about what they agreed to? They don't! The alliance is for THEIR security, not ours. So why do you want to demand that someone spends more money on their own security, and attempt to shame them into doing so by spending more of MY tax money when I don't need the damn alliance?
That's the height of stupidity. You can't see that?
People here want to gut entitlement spending, but they should be happy to kick in billions for NATO nations that don't wanna pony up? That makes sense to you?
You don't have universal healthcare, and you damn sure don't have six week paid vacations with cradle to grave social benefits....what other nation is subsidizing YOUR nation's defense while you vacation in Ibiza?
Get a clue.
IMO, NATO needs to be disbanded since it's a left over institution from the days of the Soviet Union when the U.S.S.R. was trying to expand westward. It's obsolete.
Didn't they all agree to pay a certain amount when they joined NATO? So why is it ok for them to pay less, and we make up the difference? Does that make sense to you or are you just blindly harping on Trump no matter what the issue is? The name calling makes it hard to have a conversation.
They agreed to get there spending up to 2 pct of GDP by I believe 2020.
IMO, NATO needs to be disbanded since it's a left over institution from the days of the Soviet Union when the U.S.S.R. was trying to expand westward. It's obsolete.
Have you missed the bit about Russia invading and annexing part of Ukraine?
Have you missed the bit about Russia invading and annexing part of Ukraine?
No I didn't miss that part at all. The Ukraine has been embroiled with Russia for many hundreds of years and was part of Russia off and on. It doesn't represent the rest of Europe. One could argue that the Ukraine is legitimately part of Russia if one wants to, not that I'm doing that. Those two countries have a very long love/hate relationship with each other and always will.
What's the point? This is stupid. If NATO member nations see no point in paying more, then why should they pay more?
The United States just keeps trying to shoehorn itself into the affairs of other regions. If the European nations don't value NATO as much as we do, then we're the idiots, not them! Why do Americans care more about Europe's security than the Europeans do? Again, these are our economic competitors, and spending billions of US taxpayer money on their defense while they take six week annual vacations and enjoy universal health coverage is insulting and SHOULD be insulting to the average American.
If you are saying that we should pull out of NATO I agree 100%!!!!
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