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View Poll Results: Did Trump and company collude with an enemy of the USA to win the presidency?
Yes 213 59.83%
No 143 40.17%
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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"Corrupted". You can't even define that. As I've noted, it's possible they said "We have dirt on Hillary". I would listen also. If Hillary hadn't been a complete and total incompetent in everything she does, that doesn't even happen.
I can define "corrupted". They DID say they had "dirt on Hillary". That's why the meeting happened. If they simply wanted to share information, why bother to have a meeting? The Russians could have simply gone ahead and given it to Wikileaks, they could have sent it anonymously to Fox News, they could have released it on RT. A meeting suggests that the Russians wanted something in exchange. The question is what? Because that's how we determine corruption.

 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/JimMcCarthy528/s...95594266611714

What next?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I can define "corrupted". They DID say they had "dirt on Hillary". That's why the meeting happened. If they simply wanted to share information, why bother to have a meeting? The Russians could have simply gone ahead and given it to Wikileaks, they could have sent it anonymously to Fox News, they could have released it on RT. A meeting suggests that the Russians wanted something in exchange. The question is what? Because that's how we determine corruption.
Bingo!

If they didn't want anything in return, why meet?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Defend him for what? Nothing illegal, or out of the ordinary done.
It is just virtue signaling your army.
What is wrong with checking your virtue?
Then why is the first reflex of the Trumpettes to try to find something worse (without success) by referencing Clinton or Obama to compare his actions to instead of refuting the claims by quoting the merits of the actions alone?

In other words, what are the 'virtues' of having your campaign staff working with a foreign government to throw an American election? Remember, no Clinton or Obama referrences.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I want Trump defeated. This is NOT how it will be done and it's unlikely that if this is how the (D)'s think it will be done that it will be done. Trump comes out on top with this kind of politics.

Dismiss that all you want but I warned about it for years. There are an ever growing number of us that have refused to vote against someone ever again. Give us someone to vote for, or lose.
"Criminal activity" does not equal "politics". At least, that was the case before the current administration.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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I can define "corrupted". They DID say they had "dirt on Hillary". That's why the meeting happened. If they simply wanted to share information, why bother to have a meeting? The Russians could have simply gone ahead and given it to Wikileaks, they could have sent it anonymously to Fox News, they could have released it on RT. A meeting suggests that the Russians wanted something in exchange. The question is what? Because that's how we determine corruption.
The info came from inside the Hillary campaign. Yeah, I egged this all on also BUT the info that was released on Hillary was an inside job. Trump had nothing to do with it.

Hillary was so arrogantly self entitled that not even those who worked for her could stand it.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Charge him. It's not going to happen.
Time will tell.
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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So we've gone from "Show us evidence of collusion" to "I don't care if there's evidence of collusion, so what?"
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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I want Trump defeated. This is NOT how it will be done and it's unlikely that if this is how the (D)'s think it will be done that it will be done. Trump comes out on top with this kind of politics.
So you think we should ignore conspiring with a foreign enemy to win an election?
 
Old 07-11-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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"Criminal activity" does not equal "politics". At least, that was the case before the current administration.
James Clapper went before Congress and lied under oath. He even admitted to it. That was criminal. What happened because of that perjury? Someone felt compelled to release the truth. That truth embarrassed the Obama administration and Russia helped block their desire for revenge and that along with Putin slapping Obama down on Syria is what the whole "Russia" thing is about.

Why wasn't Clapper charged with actual perjury but we expect someone who lies in general to get charged?
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