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View Poll Results: Is it treason to collude with a foreign power to undermine and influence a US election?
YES 34 79.07%
NO 9 20.93%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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Do you think it is treasonous for Americans (such as those associated with Donald Trump) to contact (phone or email) or meet with foreign powers (Like Russia) in order to collude in an effort to undermine and influence US domestic elections (such as the 2016 Presidential Election)?
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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Yes, I think Obama should be executed.

Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu - Washington Times
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The United States Constitution (Article 3, Section3) specifically defines treason as "giving aid and comfort to an enemy in time of war"; obviously, that is not the case here. The lunatic fringe on both sides of our present polarization reveals itself a little more with every passing day.
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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Title 18, Part 1 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Why does a foreign power being involved make it worse than say....

Donna Brazil giving debate questions to team Hillary in advance?

Or the DNC colluding to sand bag Bernie Sanders and favor Hillary?

Are these things not more palpable (and provable) than any collusion with Russia?

Why are Dems so obsessed with Russia while ignoring their own party's interference in the election?
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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What idiot voted no to this?

Of course it's treason. That's not an issue of debate.

I assume the person voting no was a Trump supporters who's so committed to the Cult that they just assume the need to disagree with this. Seriously, this is getting out a hand. It's treason to collude with a foreign government to influence election, regardless of Trump doing it. In the same way, murder is illegal regardless of you or I being murderers.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:39 AM
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Why does a foreign power being involved make it worse than say....

Donna Brazil giving debate questions to team Hillary in advance?

Or the DNC colluding to sand bag Bernie Sanders and favor Hillary?

Are these things not more palpable (and provable) than any collusion with Russia?

Why are Dems so obsessed with Russia while ignoring their own party's interference in the election?

Any influence from any foreign power involved in our election process can be seen as the person elected being a pawn of said foreign power. THIS is the issue! If Russia helped Trump the question is what is Russia getting in return? Is Russian payback apart of Trump agenda. Were promises made to Russia and if so are they against the will of the American people. These are all the questions that would be asked eventually if "collusion" was done.

The process unfolding now which looks like a which hunt is to gather evidence of Russia attempting to work with the Trump team. It all wouldn't be this bad if Trump and his team wasn't dangling a carrot in front of everyone with Russia written on it. Members on both side of the isles as well as many intelligence agencies have said there is/was Russian involvement. Why should that go ignored if (R), (D), (I), FBI, NSA, CIA et al are all on the same page?

As for all the other collusion points you mentioned it's all fair game b/c this is happening within our countries legal limits.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And the very article you cite states "the U.S. spending was not deemed illegal because the State Department never put any conditions on the money."

So, why the call for execution? Have the urge for a modern day lynching?
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Any influence from any foreign power involved in our election process can be seen as the person elected being a pawn of said foreign power. THIS is the issue! If Russia helped Trump the question is what is Russia getting in return? Is Russian payback apart of Trump agenda. Were promises made to Russia and if so are they against the will of the American people. These are all the questions that would be asked eventually if "collusion" was done.

The process unfolding now which looks like a which hunt is to gather evidence of Russia attempting to work with the Trump team. It all wouldn't be this bad if Trump and his team wasn't dangling a carrot in front of everyone with Russia written on it. Members on both side of the isles as well as many intelligence agencies have said there is/was Russian involvement. Why should that go ignored if (R), (D), (I), FBI, NSA, CIA et al are all on the same page?

As for all the other collusion points you mentioned it's all fair game b/c this is happening within our countries legal limits.




Interference in an election is interference in an election.

But apparently the Left doesn't mind so much when they're the ones doing the interfering.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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Do you think it is treasonous for Americans (such as those associated with Donald Trump) to contact (phone or email) or meet with foreign powers (Like Russia) in order to collude in an effort to undermine and influence US domestic elections (such as the 2016 Presidential Election)?

It is not a matter of what people think. It either is or is not by LAW. And, as I understand it, by law it is treason to collude with a foreign power to influence an election.
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