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Old 07-15-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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You know it's bad for Trump when Fox News is against him. Maybe the reason that Trump and Co. aren't putting all their Russian contacts out IS because they committed a crime or at the very least something highly immoral.

Fox "News" has finally realized it's time to jump ship and try to distance themselves from this corrupt regime, before it completely disintegrates. They and Murdoch show the same expediency and lack of credibility, in which Trump is enmeshed. If there are any commentators with integrity on that network, they need to make the same escape for themselves. Why they would be there in the first place, is hard to understand. How many people does this network think will ever regard them as reputable, regardless of changes they might make? Their following would probably be limited to the few Trump supporters who finally see the light and reject him.
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Old 07-15-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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What we are all witnessing here are the beginnings of a story that is going to get very ugly as details come out. Trump has always been shady, and it looks like his sons and in laws learned the same lessons from him about how to be dishonest and corrupt.

This crew thought they were simply being smart to pair up with the Russians to help them win........what harm could that do ? But they are finding out they were not buying a building there, they were deeply involved with American politics and had to adhere to certain ethics.........ethics that they have never had to have before now.

This is what you get when you ask real estate people, with zero experience, to run something as complicated as our government. No one should be surprised at the outcome.
Every time a Trump supporter starts in how on Trump will be a great president because he made so much money in real estate, I wonder if they have ever had anything to do with real estate agents and developers before.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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What did you expect when a Con Man was given the keys to the WH? Furthermore, trumpsters will now brand FOXNEWS as Fake News.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I think this guy from Fox News always behave this way. Nothing new. But they show something on TV, I forgot which show, but they interviewed a bunch of people, people said they don't care about this Russian thing. As much as the left like to believe.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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A couple of things. For starters, I do not believe polls are accurate whether they support my thinking or not. The "numbers" you refer to are based on polling.
If this last election did anything, it was make the lemmings aware of what the rest of us have known for years. That the polls are inaccurate, manipulated, and biased. In many instances it is how you ask the question to get the results you want.

Also keep in mind that many people disappointed with Trump are not saying they have buyers remorse, rather they wish he was able to get more done. Don't think for a minute they do not realize that the (D's) are obstructing Trumps agenda, and will continue to do so well beyond the false narrative of Russian collusion.



He did not admit collusion, and far too many people are throwing that word around as if they understand it's true meaning.
Having a meeting to see what dirt someone has on a political opponent is not collusion. Now if something like nuclear codes were offered in exchange for the dirt, that would be a different story.
But Trump Jr. expressing glee at the prospect of someone having the dirt on Hillary and then meeting to see if it is real is hardly something unethical, much less a crime.
Yes..yes they are..of course..with the Republicans in control of all the apparatus of Govt., it really should make no difference what the Dems do.

The right spent 8 years with only one goal..to obstruct and and deny anything Obama and the Dems wanted. This, in fact, was their stated goal. So, should it surprise anyone if the Left attempts to pay the Right back in its own coin?

As for polls..everyone should know that there is a vast difference between a predictive poll...and an opinion poll. All polls are not equal..but when they all seem to come up with the same numbers..might be time to give it some credibility.

Accck..really? Yes it was unethical--whether or not it's commonly done. A crime? I don't think so--but it is disturbing..that the imperative to win excuses all sorts of questionable behavior.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Only the willfully ignorant still trust this so-called administration.
I agree. Unfortunately, the alternative was even less trustworthy. I'm still can't get over the fact that the best candidates the Democrats and Republicans could come up with were Clinton and Trump.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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It sounds like what many believe have been true of the Democrats when it comes to Obama and the Clinton's.

The irony about this meeting that occurred is that somehow if party X says they have evidence of wrongdoing by a political opponent, what party would not have such a meeting?
So Trumps son says great and takes a meeting to determine if there was a validity to it, is no different than what Carville and others have done on the (D) side.
So why would it be ok with the (D's) for things like that to routinely occur in the "war room", but not when the (R's) do it?




It's a big deal because Democrats can't win a ****ing election to save their lives, so they need an excuse for losing that doesn't require them to ditch their white-male hating, anti-American ideology.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Smith is a Democrat.

Wallace is a Negative Nancy about everybody R or D. He's an equal opportunity Debbie Downer.

If elitist Krauthammer was in The Swamp, he'd be the first I'd want to see drained.

Except for Tucker Carlson and Lou Dobbs on the Business Channel, I've gone back to watching movies and dramas.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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This is all because of Trump hitting on the first lady in Paris.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKn4aS6T-JQ
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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"Someone"?!? LOL

No, colluding with our country's most evil rival and long time enemy of freedom is not business as usual no matter how much the cult wishes it to be so...

https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/te...-robinson.html
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