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Old 07-21-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Just when you think things cannot get any more sick and twisted.....




5 teens who recorded, mocked drowning man will not be charged in his death | abc7chicago.com
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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Just when you think things cannot get any more sick and twisted.....




5 teens who recorded, mocked drowning man will not be charged in his death | abc7chicago.com
Why should there be any criminal charge? Only you are responsible for your own safety.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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Heartbreaking. Statement from the victim's sister "If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they're going to do when they get older. Where's the morals?" The teens told the cops they were out there smoking weed.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Why should there be any criminal charge? Only you are responsible for your own safety.
This may come as a shock to you, but in many parts of the world and several states in USA there are duty to rescue and or failure to render aid statues.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue


Apparently in this instance what statues exist on Florida's books do not cover:


Teens filmed, mocked drowning man, Cocoa police say=
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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Heartbreaking. Statement from the victim's sister "If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they're going to do when they get older. Where's the morals?" The teens told the cops they were out there smoking weed.
Juveniles or not, I hope their names get outed. People have the right to know who these sociopaths in the making are.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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I wouldn't have jumped in but would have called 911. It's bad that they didn't at least do do that or report it, but apparently in Florida that doesn't raise to the level of a crime.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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This may come as a shock to you, but in many parts of the world and several states in USA there are duty to rescue and or failure to render aid statues.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue


Apparently in this instance what statues exist on Florida's books do not cover:


Teens filmed, mocked drowning man, Cocoa police say=
No, it doesn't come as a shocker to me. Plenty of people want to impose their own rules onto others, from controlling people's genitals to thoughts.

Nobody should be held responsible for rescuing another person.

Remember police doesn't even have the duty to protect you.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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This is one of those tough philosophical questions...these guys acted like horrible human beings, or possibly sociopaths, but is it truly a crime to NOT do something?

Obviously you want to punish them or have some type of consequences for letting someone die, but strictly looking at it logically, I don't necessarily think it should be law.

If you say it should be a crime to not help someone, where does that logic end? If someone else is putting themselves in danger, jumping in a lake, running into traffic, driving drunk, taking too many drugs...you're mandated to step in and punished as a criminal if you don't? I see some major red flags there.

I think it's an interesting and important conversation either way.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Many a person has drowned trying to help someone else drowning. The 1st victim will latch onto you and pull you under too.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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5 teens who recorded, mocked drowning man will not be charged in his death | abc7chicago.com
I saw that earlier. It is horrible. They were high on marijuana, which probably clouded their judgment.

Instead of using their cell phones to call 911, they used them to video tape the death.
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