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Old 07-25-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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It could be argued that since the child is not biologically the paying father's child:

- then the mother had sex with another man (or men).

- she HID this fact from everyone; therefore,

- she not only LIED, she deliberately lied.

In this case, I'm not buying the "I didn't know" excuse.
I did not see specifics of their relationship or why she was so sure that he was the father. We do not know that she lied. She very well could have thought that he was the father, without a doubt.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Looks like PA also requires a signed acknowledgment of paternity by the father.

https://www.humanservices.state.pa.u...mZ@poiR@TCwtEX
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Which ones because I cant find where the court mandates DNA positive test before child support is awarded.
Here is your state...

Establishing Paternity

By establishing paternity, you give your child a legal father. This is important to the father, mother and child. Both the father and the mother should share in the emotional, financial and legal responsibilities in caring for their child. Parents working together with the child’s best interest in mind, can positively impact the child’s well-being, sense of security and outlook for the future. The Department of Human Services and your local child support office are committed to working with both parents in establishing paternity.

If the mother is married when the child is born or the child is born within three hundred (300) days of the entry of a final decree of divorce, the husband is presumed to be the child’s legal father. If the mother is not married during this time period, the biological father can sign a Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity (VAoP) to establish paternity at the time of the child’s birth. These forms are available at the hospital, local Health Department and your local child support office. Click here to find the office which serves the county in which you live.

If either parent has doubts about who the father is, he/she should not sign the VAoP. The child support office can schedule DNA testing to determine whether or not the individual is the father. After positive DNA testing results are returned to the local child support office from the certified DNA lab, paternity will be established through court order.

https://www.tn.gov/humanservices/art...hing-paternity
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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I do not know all of them but here is one.


"Child Support: Your child needs and deserves both emotional and financial support from both parents. You may think that you can get by on your own and live without any help from your child’s father. But you may change your mind some day. A court can’t order child support without legal proof of paternity. It’s easier to get that proof today than to wait."

Paternity Establishment - Maryland Department of Human Resources
You said it is the law in many of the states. I assume you know this because you have researched it.
The post and link above is not a law in any state. It states you can get a paternity tests. No where does it say it is a law in Maryland that a court must have a DNA test before ordering child support.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Here is your state...

Establishing Paternity

By establishing paternity, you give your child a legal father. This is important to the father, mother and child. Both the father and the mother should share in the emotional, financial and legal responsibilities in caring for their child. Parents working together with the child’s best interest in mind, can positively impact the child’s well-being, sense of security and outlook for the future. The Department of Human Services and your local child support office are committed to working with both parents in establishing paternity.

If the mother is married when the child is born or the child is born within three hundred (300) days of the entry of a final decree of divorce, the husband is presumed to be the child’s legal father. If the mother is not married during this time period, the biological father can sign a Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity (VAoP) to establish paternity at the time of the child’s birth. These forms are available at the hospital, local Health Department and your local child support office. Click here to find the office which serves the county in which you live.

If either parent has doubts about who the father is, he/she should not sign the VAoP. The child support office can schedule DNA testing to determine whether or not the individual is the father. After positive DNA testing results are returned to the local child support office from the certified DNA lab, paternity will be established through court order.

https://www.tn.gov/humanservices/art...hing-paternity
Again this is not a law that a paternity test must be taken prior to assigning child support. This is from human services informing how to get a paternity test.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Stuff like this is why guys won't get married and have kids. When things go south, they will have to deal with the feminist court system and often men end up getting stuck with alimony and/or child support. There's no equality in this.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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I did not see specifics of their relationship or why she was so sure that he was the father. We do not know that she lied. She very well could have thought that he was the father, without a doubt.
Hum....yeah, I guess she just plain forgot about the other guy (guys) she had sex with.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:21 PM
 
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I do not know all of them but here is one.


"Child Support: Your child needs and deserves both emotional and financial support from both parents. You may think that you can get by on your own and live without any help from your child’s father. But you may change your mind some day. A court can’t order child support without legal proof of paternity. It’s easier to get that proof today than to wait."

Paternity Establishment - Maryland Department of Human Resources
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You said it is the law in many of the states. I assume you know this because you have researched it.
The post and link above is not a law in any state. It states you can get a paternity tests. No where does it say it is a law in Maryland that a court must have a DNA test before ordering child support.
It is a law... I even bolded it to make it clear. It clearly states A court can’t order child support without legal proof of paternity.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Stuff like this is why guys won't get married and have kids. When things go south, they will have to deal with the feminist court system and often men end up getting stuck with alimony and/or child support. There's no equality in this.
BS flag here. No such thing as a "feminist court system". My spouse was awarded child support by a court in TEXAS. She didn't pay at the beginning. South Carolina put her behind in jail. She paid promptly after that.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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Here is your state...

Establishing Paternity

By establishing paternity, you give your child a legal father. This is important to the father, mother and child. Both the father and the mother should share in the emotional, financial and legal responsibilities in caring for their child. Parents working together with the child’s best interest in mind, can positively impact the child’s well-being, sense of security and outlook for the future. The Department of Human Services and your local child support office are committed to working with both parents in establishing paternity.

If the mother is married when the child is born or the child is born within three hundred (300) days of the entry of a final decree of divorce, the husband is presumed to be the child’s legal father. If the mother is not married during this time period, the biological father can sign a Voluntary Acknowledgement of Paternity (VAoP) to establish paternity at the time of the child’s birth. These forms are available at the hospital, local Health Department and your local child support office. Click here to find the office which serves the county in which you live.

If either parent has doubts about who the father is, he/she should not sign the VAoP. The child support office can schedule DNA testing to determine whether or not the individual is the father. After positive DNA testing results are returned to the local child support office from the certified DNA lab, paternity will be established through court order.

https://www.tn.gov/humanservices/art...hing-paternity
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Again this is not a law that a paternity test must be taken prior to assigning child support. This is from human services informing how to get a paternity test.
Here let me help you with this one also... After positive DNA testing results are returned to the local child support office from the certified DNA lab, paternity will be established through court order.

So in TN it is established by the father signing a Acknowledgement of Paternity or the DNA testing.
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