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Old 07-20-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Colorado prisoners with deadliest infectious disease in U.S. denied treatment, lawsuit alleges – The Denver Post

Colorado also has a very high rate of heroin users so I am not surprised that there are so over 2,200 inmates with hepatitis C.

Now, the state seems to be denying effective treatment to people with highly-contagious hepatitis C behind bars

Colorado basically opened a big can of worms by basically telling the nation and world that illicit drug use is tolerated, so now they are up to 2,200 inmates with hepatitis C and the state is refusing effective treatment.

The law of unintended consequences is that Colorado wanted to be ultra-liberal and tolerant when it came to drugs so it is full of gateway drug users who slip into heroin and the corrections systems is falling apart because the state is so overwhelmed with heroin addicts in prison.

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Old 07-20-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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Yep, reports of homeless on the streets and needles laying around.

But the ones who want to light up a joint or pot pipe will be in denial.
Just as dopers do.
They are ruining Colorado.
But, hey their right light up a mind altering addictive drug comes first

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Old 07-20-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Screw 'em. This is what they wanted, let them reap what they sow.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The law of unintended consequences is that Colorado wanted to be ultra-liberal and tolerant when it came to drugs so it is full of gateway drug users who slip into heroin and the corrections systems is falling apart because the state is so overwhelmed with heroin addicts in prison.
Prescription pills are the gateway to heroin, NOT marijuana.

Conservatives will be quick to blame anything that happens in Colorado on marijuana legalization because they can't live with the fact that people actually have the right to feel good in that state. Sorry, Baptists, but public opinion is moving against you and it will be legal in all 50 states by 2050.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:11 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Colorado prisoners with deadliest infectious disease in U.S. denied treatment, lawsuit alleges – The Denver Post

Colorado also has a very high rate of heroin users so I am not surprised that there are so over 2,200 inmates with hepatitis C.

Now, the state seems to be denying effective treatment to people with highly-contagious hepatitis C behind bars

Colorado basically opened a big can of worms by basically telling the nation and world that illicit drug use is tolerated, so now they are up to 2,200 inmates with hepatitis C and the state is refusing effective treatment.

The law of unintended consequences is that Colorado wanted to be ultra-liberal and tolerant when it came to drugs so it is full of gateway drug users who slip into heroin and the corrections systems is falling apart because the state is so overwhelmed with heroin addicts in prison.
Nobody here in Colorado said illicit drug use is tolerated. You might want to look up stats and stop the propaganda. Hep C is prominent through out the country but you don't want to mention that because you have a special kind of hate towards Colorado.

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Old 07-20-2017, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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I just died of hep c from injecting 6 marijuanas.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Prescription pills are the gateway to heroin, NOT marijuana.

Conservatives will be quick to blame anything that happens in Colorado on marijuana legalization because they can't live with the fact that people actually have the right to feel good in that state. Sorry, Baptists, but public opinion is moving against you and it will be legal in all 50 states by 2050.
You think? No, it is most likely that those that use pot want others to believe there is no relationship:

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...a-gateway-drug

This article is interesting: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...a-gateway-drug, and makes sense, while it will be a gateway drug for some, you take CO and the legal pot, people moving in just for that, this would be vulnerable market for someone pushing opiates. People that have addictive habits already to chemical substances are an easy mark!

In CO, it isn't just the incident of Hep C, but the prisoners aren't being treated properly, right?
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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I imagine there were plenty of fake horror stories like this when prohibition of alcohol was rescinded.
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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The assertions that continue to be made linking marijuana use to serious drug addiction by officials like Michele Leonhart, the former administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration, are contradicted by facts.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...drug-addiction

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...d-the-evidence
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Marijuana "Gateway Drug" was a myth that got circulated over 45 years ago~~ and it won't die.
MYTH: Marijuana Is a "Gateway" Drug - Marijuana: 7 Health Myths Up in Smoke - Pictures - CBS News
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MYTH: Marijuana Is a "Gateway" Drug
Despite anti-drug education campaigns which state marijuana is a gateway for harder drug use, new research from the University of New Hampshire says for most people that's not true.

But pot does serves as a "gateway," says Dr. Karen Van Gund, associate professor of sociology., mainly for young people who are poor, unemployed, and subjected to severe psychological stress.

In other words, the path to other drugs is not necessarily the pot, but rather the potholes young people encounter on the road.
Myth: Marijuana is a 'gateway' drug | Top 10 Marijuana Myths and Facts | Rolling Stone
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1. Myth: Marijuana is a dangerous drug
Fact: Study after study has found that pot is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco, much less "hard" drugs like cocaine and heroin.
Sources: Journal of the American Medical Association, Journal of Psychopharmacology
Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die | TIME.com
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So what accounts for the massive correlation between marijuana use and use of other drugs? One key factor is taste. People who are extremely interested in altering their consciousness are likely to want to try more than one way of doing it. If you are a true music fan, you probably won’t stick to listening to just one band or even a single genre — this doesn’t make lullabies a gateway to the Grateful Dead, it means that people who really like music probably like many different songs and groups.

Second is marijuana’s illegality: you aren’t likely to be able to find a heroin dealer if you can’t even score weed. Compared with pot dealers, sellers of hard drugs tend to be even less trusting of customers they don’t know, in part because they face greater penalties. But if you’ve proved yourself by regularly purchasing marijuana, dealers will happily introduce to you to their harder product lines if you express interest, or help you find a friend of theirs who can.

Holland began liberalizing its marijuana laws in part to close this particular gateway — and indeed now the country has slightly fewer young pot-smokers who move on to harder drugs compared with other nations, including the U.S. A 2010 Rand Institute report titled “What Can We Learn from the Dutch Cannabis Coffeeshop Experience?” found that there was “some evidence” for a “weakened gateway” in The Netherlands, and concluded that the data “clearly challenge any claim that the Dutch have strengthened the gateway to hard drug use.” (More on Time.com: Is Marijuana Addictive? It Depends How You Define Addiction)

Of course, that’s not the gateway argument favored by supporters of our current drug policy — but it is the one supported by science.
There's literally hundreds of links that disprove that myth.. but diehard naysayers continue on with that myth!! Of course Pot's medicinal strengths weren't known back almost half century ago.. and education and research and ability to separate element ( such as THC) actually completely changes ALL equations of half century original view point!!!

What actually causes escalation into heavy use of much higher level of intoxicants is more likely to personalty dependence on avoiding real life.. or initial say post surgery or treatment for chronic pain by prescriptions.. then over used and abused.. become addicted to pain meds ( oxycodone is just one example) .. there's far too many examples to how that occurs ..even by celebrities!! Marijuana is hardly the gateway in any of these cases!! IMO

BTW~~ Hep C is caused by IV drug use and sharing of dirty needles.. Not taking a Marijuana hit on a "Blunt". I don't smoke it.. but I sure do know the odour when I smell it!!
ETA~~
http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/hepc-...atitis-c-cause
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How it spreads

You cannot get hepatitis C from casual contact such as hugging, kissing, sneezing, coughing, or sharing food or water with someone. You can get hepatitis C if you come into contact with the blood of someone who has hepatitis C.

The most common way to get hepatitis C is by sharing needles and other equipment (such as cotton, spoons, and water) used to inject illegal drugs.

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