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Old 08-13-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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What does a child know at 5 years of age? 10? Even 11 or 13? What they want right now. No thought of consequences. No thought of the future.
I support the Transgender community. One of my best friends is Transgender. I think it insane to ask a 5 year old what gender they think they are then roll with it. My 5 year old went from wanting to be Mr. Conductor to being a farmer in a week.
All we can do is be supportive. If my son came to me at 16 and said "Dad I'm gay." I would have hugged him and said "ok, you are still my child." If he came to me said he was transgender I would have hugged him and said "Ok let's slow down, we have time. Let's make sure before we start doing things that can hurt you."
I suspect they know more than we give them credit for, probably as early as 5, almost certainly by 11 or 13.
Has your friend ever talked to you about when they identified as their true gender?

I feel a bit out of my depth here, as a cis woman, but I remember sometimes as a little girl, maybe about kindergarten age, saying that I wished I was a boy. The reason was simple: when I started school, playtime, as well as other activities, were very gender-specific. Little girls were quiet, wore dresses, and played house. I was hyper and loud, hated dresses (although I always wanted long hair), and thought playing house was too much like house work. I had no desire to change my body or to avoid growing into the body of a woman. I never preferred boys' names. I never said "I AM a boy," I just wanted to be allowed to do the things boys did. It is my understanding that it's different for transgendered children - they truly identify as the opposite gender on a level much deeper than simply preferring one toy to another.

I don't know enough about the science to know at what age the initial steps towards transitioning become appropriate and safe, but I don't understand why simply allowing a child to live as the gender he or she identifies as is a problem. That, by itself, is not irreversible.

I hope I haven't messed this up through my admitted lack of knowledge.
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Old 08-13-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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I suspect they know more than we give them credit for, probably as early as 5, almost certainly by 11 or 13.
Has your friend ever talked to you about when they identified as their true gender?
I was about 8 when I knew.
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I feel a bit out of my depth here, as a cis woman, but I remember sometimes as a little girl, maybe about kindergarten age, saying that I wished I was a boy. The reason was simple: when I started school, playtime, as well as other activities, were very gender-specific. Little girls were quiet, wore dresses, and played house. I was hyper and loud, hated dresses (although I always wanted long hair), and thought playing house was too much like house work. I had no desire to change my body or to avoid growing into the body of a woman. I never preferred boys' names. I never said "I AM a boy," I just wanted to be allowed to do the things boys did. It is my understanding that it's different for transgendered children - they truly identify as the opposite gender on a level much deeper than simply preferring one toy to another.
Very different. I was beaten quite often and punished often for "acting like a girl" growing up.

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I don't know enough about the science to know at what age the initial steps towards transitioning become appropriate and safe, but I don't understand why simply allowing a child to live as the gender he or she identifies as is a problem. That, by itself, is not irreversible.
This is true, and using puberty inhibiting drugs (hormone blockers) is also reversible.

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I hope I haven't messed this up through my admitted lack of knowledge.
Looks good to me.
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