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Adam Smith said "there is a great deal of ruin in a Nation" meaning that a great nation could withstand many horrible decisions by its leaders and still survive.
Eventually I think the bad leadership presently running Seattle will catch up to the city, but for now Seattle trundles along. Seattle is still 'crane capital' of the U.S. But there is also rampant homelessness and other problems. I used to visit the city at least once a month, but haven't set foot there for over a year. I don't need to have my car vandalized or accidentally step in some human excrement.
Because they're getting the exact same (if not more, e.g. means-tested public assistance wealth transfers) access to government services/benefits.
Except that government costs are determined - and thus inflated - by the non-poor government class. Why should a poor person have to pay high taxes to fund the inflated compensation of government workers paid 5x the poor person's wage for doing similar work?
Oh, so those who earn less than their "former owners" will somehow be able to afford them? Not likely.
A great feature of real property is that mansions WILL be sold to new owners, and occupied by the buyers, at SOME non-zero price. i.e. SOMEONE will buy and occupy mansions vacated by fleeing rich people. Funny how markets work.
Why isn't everyone else required to pay "their fair share?" This is only for people earning over $250K (which really isn't all that much for the area). Who determines what their "fair share is?"
Why is someone a "jerk" if they object to taxes? Why should anybody be willing to fork over their money to liberals who want to spend it on their pet 'causes,' which keep growing in number and cost?
How do you know what may or may not be a burden on someone?
Typical liberal logic: You should pay more for the privilege of living in such a place.
Is it for you to decide what won't affect their 'lifestyle?'
I know of a lot of wealthy people who left New York because of the high taxes, so not everyone is as "happy to pay more" as you claim.
Now that would depend on how the city manages it's money, would it not? There are cities going bankrupt because of poor money management.
Your arguments are flawed, but typical of Leftists who love to spend other peoples money.
In places like Seattle, rent serfs already pay "their fair share" - it's just that they pay it to middleman landlords, who in turn pay taxes to government.
I agree. But as housing prices decrease, Seattle will collect less in tax revenue. And adding only lower-income residents will cost them more in social services. Result: services would have to be cut.
Ah, the conundrum of federalism's race to the bottom: the poor have to live SOMEWHERE, but all governments have an incentive to steer the poor Somewhere Else.
Except that government costs are determined - and thus inflated - by the non-poor government class.
Nope. It's exactly the opposite. Just look at all the means-tested federal government public assistance programs. They all have huge bureaucracies running them. Eliminate them, and a huge cost of government would be eliminated.
A great feature of real property is that mansions WILL be sold to new owners, and occupied by the buyers, at SOME non-zero price. i.e. SOMEONE will buy and occupy mansions vacated by fleeing rich people. Funny how markets work.
People on the right aren't against assistance for the poor.
If that is true why does Donald Trumps budget "cut more than $800 billion from Medicaid, the federal health program for the poor, while slicing $192 billion from nutritional assistance and $272 billion over all from welfare programs" ?
If your service provides a lot of value, your wages will be high. If it provides low value, your wages will be low. "Righties" don't hope for you to have low wages. They hope you are paid every penny you are worth.
The sole purpose of business is to make money, and a business will naturally pay its workers the lowest wage possible to increase profits. Workers are not paid every penny they are worth, workers are paid the lowest wages business can pay them.
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Third, people on the right would like to see low taxes for everybody, not just the wealthy.
Then why did the Bush tax cuts give the 20% of Americans making up the middle class 6% of the tax cuts, and then give the richest 1% of Americans 51% of the tax cuts? Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis
And why do Donald Trumps proposed tax cuts raise low income workers after-tax income by 0.8%, and then raise the richest 1% of Americans after-tax income by 13.5% (and raise the richest 0.1% of Americans after-tax income by 14.2%) ?? https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
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That said, I have a friend from Seattle and we were discussing this tax over drinks a couple of weeks ago. He will be paying more with this new tax than most wealthy people earn in a year. He didn't seem to mind it though and I didn't expect he would. He is a liberal, hippy, surfer guy. I like him in spite of it.
And I would assume that he likes you as well, even though you support a political party that wants to cut billions of dollars in needed assistance for the poor, pollute the environment to increase corporate profits, and add $20.7 trillion dollars to our national debt in the next 20 years by giving the richest 1% of Americans huge tax cuts (it sounds as if the 2 of you are true friends.)
I apologize if I was rude, have a good one AnesthesiaMD,
Chad.
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