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They're not against selling the product. Their against endorsing a specific thing.
If they have an issue making wedding cakes, they should not offer them for sale. Making a cake is not endorsing anything, it is making a cake. If the shop offers a item or service then they should sell that item or service to anyone who wants to purchase that item or service.
I agree that if the couple want's a cake with obscene images or something then the baker can say that they don't offer that design. But if person A orders a white cake with flowers, and person B orders the same cake and is refused that should not be allowed.
Of course the government can have total control of a business that is public, because it's spelled p u b l i c. If it has those six letters, the government can control it because physics.
The insanity of people who feel that freedom is forfeit once you decide to open a store is beyond belief.
Call me crazy but it boggles my mind how some folks, well past childhood & the various developmental milestones, are not aware the feeling of perfect & limitless freedom that comes from solitary living, completely alone on a planet, ends with the awareness that one is not. Apparently or seemingly, sharing a planet with even one other person will shatter the illusion. How fragile for an aspiration, how meaningless.
My daughter and DIL had their 1st Wedding Anniversary. We booked a table for 10 people in a restaurant to celebrate and put up balloons around the table. Did we tell the restaurant it was a Gay Marriage Anniversary? Of course not, anymore than we told the restaurant when we had a Funeral Luncheon.
Mixed number of men and women at that party table. Who is married TO WHO? lol We demand to see the marriage licenses of everyone to determine if the anniversary couple is gay? Absurd. Should a restaurant be able to throw all of us out? Should they be able to demand what the occasion is for all customers? None of your business.
Call me crazy but it boggles my mind how some folks, well past childhood & the various developmental milestones, are not aware the feeling of perfect & limitless freedom that comes from solitary living, completely alone on a planet, ends with the awareness that one is not. Apparently or seemingly, sharing a planet with even one other person will shatter the illusion. How fragile for an aspiration, how meaningless.
So, because there are other people, someone else should decide what you're allowed to say or even not do?
My daughter and DIL had their 1st Wedding Anniversary. We booked a table for 10 people in a restaurant to celebrate and put up balloons around the table. Did we tell the restaurant it was a Gay Marriage Anniversary? Of course not, anymore than we told the restaurant when we had a Funeral Luncheon.
Mixed number of men and women at that party table. Who is married TO WHO? lol We demand to see the marriage licenses of everyone to determine if the anniversary couple is gay? Absurd. Should a restaurant be able to throw all of us out? Should they be able to demand what the occasion is for all customers? None of your business.
As long as it's their property, yes.
Now, if you had signed some sort of contract with them for the event, they would need to liable for damages.
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. None of the applicable laws here are enforceable with "violence" or incarceration.
Alright if that's the case, businesses can just ignore the law and it's completely pointless to have it...so what are we even discussing it for? It'll have no effect either way.
So, because there are other people, someone else should decide what you're allowed to say or even not do?
You must really admire the NK society.
You must really enjoy drama? Frankly, my life is exciting enough as it is, & frankly, sometimes a tad more than I'd prefer, not looking to create 'drama' where there is, in fact, none. Besides, I live in NY, if I was looking for drama, or a fight, or whatever, I could easily 'locate'. No thank you, Sir.
The court sentenced the Christian couple to a fine of $135,000 for the “emotional damage” they had allegedly caused the lesbian pair. Rachel Cryer-Bowman and Laurel Bowman-Cryer had accused the Kleins of “mental rape,” adding that they had suffered a “loss of appetite” and “impaired digestion” from the ordeal, which remarkably led to simultaneous “weight gain.”
"mental rape" lol oh poor queens. They could and should have just taken their business elsewhere.
As far as the contention that there was no violence involved in holding the bakers accountable , tell us what would have happened had they refused to pay the 135,000 fine?
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Call me crazy 
but it boggles my mind how some folks, well past childhood & the various developmental milestones, are not aware the feeling of perfect & limitless freedom that comes from solitary living, completely alone on a planet, ends with the awareness that one is not. Apparently or seemingly, sharing a planet with even one other person will shatter the illusion. How fragile for an aspiration, how meaningless.
