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Old 08-11-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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Rasmussen shows Trump now 45% approval

Zogby shows Trump now 45%, up with Hispanics, union and western state voters

I personally don't care about polls because they are like the weather -- wait and it will change -- but I know some of you live and die by them. Enjoy!
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Like election night, you have to add 12%-15% to the polls, to get an accurate reading from their targeted Democrat voter.

Heck, what's the LA Times got on it?
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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Like election night, you have to add 12%-15% to the polls, to get an accurate reading from their targeted Democrat voter.

Heck, what's the LA Times got on it?
Lol... no you don't. He didn't even have those numbers on election night. Do I need to share with you the popular vote results?

Please doing respond with "well, that doesn't matter, he's President". I'm aware.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Lol... no you don't. He didn't even have those numbers on election night. Do I need to share with you the popular vote results?

Please doing respond with "well, that doesn't matter, he's President". I'm aware.
This.

Trump cultists don't want to admit that Hillary won the popular vote and the only reason Trump is President is because he eeked out just enough votes in just the right places (the Rust Belt). The polls were pretty accurate if talking about the popular vote.

I personally get tired of Trump cultists constantly praising Rasmussen, which always is more favorable to Trump. There was barely a peep from them last week when they had him in the 30s.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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This.

Trump cultists don't want to admit that Hillary won the popular vote and the only reason Trump is President is because he eeked out just enough votes in just the right places (the Rust Belt). The polls were pretty accurate if talking about the popular vote.

I personally get tired of Trump cultists constantly praising Rasmussen, which always is more favorable to Trump. There was barely a peep from them last week when they had him in the 30s.
I could care less about polls, but I'm really freaking happy that we don't elect the President via popular vote. I realize that lefties want to proclaim Hillary queen due to her popular vote win, but how fast would they switch sides on that argument had she won the electoral college and Trump won the popular vote? I'm willing to bet that there would be nothing from the left about changing the way our system works if that were the case.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I could care less about polls, but I'm really freaking happy that we don't elect the President via popular vote. I realize that lefties want to proclaim Hillary queen due to her popular vote win, but how fast would they switch sides on that argument had she won the electoral college and Trump won the popular vote? I'm willing to bet that there would be nothing from the left about changing the way our system works if that were the case.
I'm sure you're right.

That doesn't mean pointing out the popular vote is invalid. Particular since many people say Trump was elected by the American people... that's decidedly untrue.

For what it's worth, I don't much care for Hillary Clinton. I dislike Trump slightly more. I think the electoral college needs to be reformed so that individual voting districts can count a vote toward a particular candidate rather than simply having who ever wins the majority of districts in a state receive all the electors. I consider that a pretty fair compromise between the popular vote people and the electoral college people.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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I'm sure you're right.

That doesn't mean pointing out the popular vote is invalid. Particular since many people say Trump was elected by the American people... that's decidedly untrue.

For what it's worth, I don't much care for Hillary Clinton. I dislike Trump slightly more. I think the electoral college needs to be reformed so that individual voting districts can count a vote toward a particular candidate rather than simply having who ever wins the majority of districts in a state receive all the electors. I consider that a pretty fair compromise between the popular vote people and the electoral college people.
Or bring votes cast in different states more in alignment with each other - we should not have cases where a vote cast in one state is worth multiple times the vote in another state (e.g. a vote cast in WY is worth ~4x the a vote cast in CA or NY).

The EC should stay (I like the idea of a state only receiving so many "points"), but it should definitely be overhauled. It's quite unfair to many people in many states.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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How come the left wasn't complaining about the electoral college before the election? Many were saying Hillary could get 400 electoral votes
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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How come the left wasn't complaining about the electoral college before the election? Many were saying Hillary could get 400 electoral votes
The EC has come under attack many times in the past. This is not a new debate.

Some articles that have nothing to do with the 2016 election:
https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/s...ctoral-college
http://www.debate.org/electoral-college/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/debate-o...revived-again/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4127863
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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The EC has come under attack many times in the past. This is not a new debate.



Not before the 2016 election. Many said the EC favored Hillary, not Trump. The blue wall anyone?
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