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Old 08-15-2017, 02:13 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Obama's administration spied on millions of Americans. A contractor gave the FBI several thumb drives a while back. Haven't heard anything since.

Your deflection to Obama is like a knee-jerk response. It would be funny, if it wasn't repeated thousands of times over on this forum.
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:15 AM
 
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I'm glad people will be researched that conduct behavior to join hate and violence.

I never heard of this website and not sure what it is about but it sounds like one of Soros related groups.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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Obama used the NSA, secret FISA court, CIA and FBI without warrants. This is a DOJ request, which will be moderated by a federal judge or federal magistrate. There is a slight difference between covert spying on political adversaries, and using the courts to investigate criminal activity. That the activity is closely tied to political speech causes me to be concerned. The vast majority who visited disruptj20.org are unlikely to have committed crimes.
Yes. I do not trust the government with this information. One can argue that it's a tool to find those who broke the law and it's a valid argument but the government has shown for years that it is untrustworthy.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:18 AM
 
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Your deflection to Obama is like a knee-jerk response. It would be funny, if it wasn't repeated thousands of times over on this forum.
It's valid to point out that this has problems BUT it's nothing more than what the government has been doing (sometimes not through the courts) for years.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Obama used the NSA, secret FISA court, CIA and FBI without warrants. This is a DOJ request, which will be moderated by a federal judge or federal magistrate. There is a slight difference between covert spying on political adversaries, and using the courts to investigate criminal activity. That the activity is closely tied to political speech causes me to be concerned. The vast majority who visited disruptj20.org are unlikely to have committed crimes.


DixieHwy, has no clue what RICO is and how it is used.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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i'm trying to compare this to something in real life.

The best i can come up with is issuing a blanket search warrant for an entire county because a bunch of people who we can't easily identify from that county might have done something illegal.

The courts better prevent this request from being fulfilled.


Organized Crime....RICO
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, but they're likely to be put on a watch list. All for visiting a website.

The no fly list and will not be granted the privilege to own a firearm.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If they can gain access to these names for this, soon they will be doing it for those who visited any website at all. They could put together dossiers on everyone in the country and make it criminal to go to certain websites or combinations of them. Politicians would be using it to besmirch their opponents, based on their browsing history.


Many web browsers today(almost all of them) have made it criminal to go to many right wing websites.
You try and go, and it will pop up a window saying it cannot access it. Come in a back door from a link and you can get it to open.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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I'm okay with this as long as, unlike the unfair democrats, they also monitor white supremacist/KKK sites.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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I'm glad people will be researched that conduct behavior to join hate and violence.

I never heard of this website and not sure what it is about but it sounds like one of Soros related groups.
They organized the violent blockade of our Presidential inauguration. There used to be a lot of videos about this on youtube, but google has been removing them or making them unseen via it's search engine.
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