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Old 08-15-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Words do not hurt, actions do.

all I said was check with law enforcement and see if they have a list...
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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You don't need a source when a supposed watchdog group refuses to publish the criteria by which they classify the groups on their list. By doing this, what they are effectively doing is saying "You are a hate group if we say you are." While they may claim to be neutral, the list alone shows that they aren't, merely by the omission of groups that should be on the list and the inclusion of groups that shouldn't. They arbitrarily decide who goes on the list, thereby defaming any group that they don't agree with. What is the actual difference between the SPLC targeting the Aryan Brotherhood and the Aryan Brotherhood targeting minorities? They both pick their targets based on who they agree with, and they both do so in order to stir up hatred from those who do agree with them.

In reality, calling the SPLC a hate group doesn't need any proof or evidence, because the SPLC itself refuses to provide proof or evidence as to why a group is on their list. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to JimRom again"
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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WV is an...interesting. .place. Spent a fair piece of time there. Mainly around Clarksburg, Morgantown and about a mlion small bugs that run together through the area. Some in Charleston. I never ran across any Hitler humpers there either. The Klan however does have a presence and if WV was a voluntarily Union state they hide it well. And I don't see any warm receptions for any mobs who try to tear down any Confederate statues. Such as Stuarts in front of the courthouse in Clarksburg.
Clarksburg? I believe you mean Stonewall Jackson. He was born in Clarksburg and as far as things like this go, WV is generally behind. WV was a union state. I have lived here 40 years and as I've noted, the only sign of the KKK I have ever seen was an occasion flyer. Who knows who created them.

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The Klan pulled a few stunts whilst I was there. Pretty brazen stuff. I'm not even close to used to such overt racial tensions as I experienced there. Not huge scale stuff I guess, but still way more than I've ever seen here in N NV. The most tense things have ever been was during the Rodney King stuff. There were some potshots taken in Reno, and there was a big march through downtown. The police got intell that there were plans to start something en route with that, and they had snipers on the roofs and uniforms lining the street. No problems.

There's some concern right now about possible trouble. An upcoming annual reenactment has been canceled short notice by the host venue. The Civil War part anyway. The only "organized" (loose term) hate group is down in Vegas. Racial tensions around here have always been fairly low in my lifetime. If that ever cages I'm heading for the mountains, far away. There ha e been isolated problems with illegals and gangs. Most of that is within certain neighborhoods. Outside of there it's individuals that cause problems.

But I'm feeling a breeze picking up.
I can't speak concerning Vegas. "Pretty brazen stuff" is typical pretty vague accusations.
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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LOL. California hates everybody who is normal. We all know that. Why don't you?
I live there. Most are liberals so that's quite true.
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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I believe one or two have addressed it.

Because of the big picture. None of this was about any single instance.
If Obama wanted to talk about police shootings in general I am fine with that. When he named these two incidents as part of a bigger problem he was stating his opinion that they were guilty. If they did nothing wrong they were not part of any bigger picture or problem. Just two unfortunate deaths. He was convicting them based in a video as many others did and stirring the pot which was not necessary.

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Old 08-15-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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If Obama wanted to talk about police shootings in general I am fine with that. When he named these two incidents as part of a bigger problem he was stating his opinion that they were guilty. If they did nothing wrong they were not part of any bigger picture or problem. Just two unfortunate deaths. He was convicting them based in a video as many others did and stirring the pot which was not necessary.
He didn't say they were guilty. He said these events were troubling.
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Old 08-15-2017, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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the splc. A hate group themselves.
big time!
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You don't need a source when a supposed watchdog group refuses to publish the criteria by which they classify the groups on their list. By doing this, what they are effectively doing is saying "You are a hate group if we say you are." While they may claim to be neutral, the list alone shows that they aren't, merely by the omission of groups that should be on the list and the inclusion of groups that shouldn't. They arbitrarily decide who goes on the list, thereby defaming any group that they don't agree with. What is the actual difference between the SPLC targeting the Aryan Brotherhood and the Aryan Brotherhood targeting minorities? They both pick their targets based on who they agree with, and they both do so in order to stir up hatred from those who do agree with them.

In reality, calling the SPLC a hate group doesn't need any proof or evidence, because the SPLC itself refuses to provide proof or evidence as to why a group is on their list. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
In short, you can't do it. it's just another uninformed opinion. T.hanks
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Old 08-15-2017, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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In short, you can't do it. it's just another uninformed opinion. T.hanks
I'll reevaluate my position if you can show me SPLC's published criteria. Until you can do that, you've lost any credibility on the subject.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Maybe this will refresh your memory. The ad ran during "Made in America Week". Why do you think they don't want to hire American workers at a Trump business?

Illegals have been an integral part of the economic fabric of a lot of places for a long time, like it or not. All of the signs in the Denver area were bilingual 20 years ago, meaning that the Hispanic and Latino communities are well established. Removing them abruptly would cause major disruptions. The Denver mayor knows this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mar+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Criminals have been a part of our nation forever as well, and prisons add jobs. That doesn't mean it's a good thing, however. They won't all be removed "abruptly", as you say. It will take a long time to even get rid of the majority of them. I'm not suggesting a "witch hunt" to find and deport all illegals. However, if the legal system comes into contact with them- adios. If it's a serious crime- then prison, followed by adios.
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