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I keep hearing the Hillary lost the election. She didn't. Trump was place in office thanks to the archaic Electoral Collage and the entire corrupt Republican Party that did a massive power grab at the expense of the people. Now to make matters worse the Repubs will hang onto a mentally ill Trump to stay in power.
I'm not saying that "all" Repubs are bad it's just the rotten apples that infest our congress. There is also a misdirection when our gov't is spoken of as a "democracy" when it's not.
America is a Republic.
Don't believe me??? Recite the "pledge of allegiance" to find out which word is used.
Back to the college......
IMO the college did serve a real purpose when America was created. Today the college is just a tool to fool the people into thinking their vote for POTUS really is counted while those votes mean nothing.
How else could America get saddled with a moron sick man like........Trump??????
a power grab by the republicans? how do you figure? we have a set of election rules in this country to determine who is going to be president. it is based on how many total votes each state has in congres, california has 55, 53 representatives, and two senators. arizona has 11, 9 representatives and two senators. the other states also have their electoral votes. this is so that each state has a real say in who is to be president, rather than a few cities around the country,
personally i dont want a few cities like new york, chicago, LA, san francisco, etc, to tel the rest of the country who will be president. the one that wins the general election for president is the one that gets to 270 electoral votes, and in this case it was trump. he won the popular vote in enough states to get to 270 electoral votes.
perhaps you should actually educate yourself on how preidential elections work before you make such an ignorant post like this one. it would save you from future embarrassment.
I keep hearing the Hillary lost the election. She didn't. Trump was place in office thanks to the archaic Electoral Collage and the entire corrupt Republican Party that did a massive power grab at the expense of the people. Now to make matters worse the Repubs will hang onto a mentally ill Trump to stay in power.
I'm not saying that "all" Repubs are bad it's just the rotten apples that infest our congress. There is also a misdirection when our gov't is spoken of as a "democracy" when it's not.
America is a Republic.
Don't believe me??? Recite the "pledge of allegiance" to find out which word is used.
Back to the college......
IMO the college did serve a real purpose when America was created. Today the college is just a tool to fool the people into thinking their vote for POTUS really is counted while those votes mean nothing.
How else could America get saddled with a moron sick man like........Trump??????
You lost the election and America won....time to accept it and embrace your new Orange Master.
Let's see, Republicans won the House, won the Senate, won the Presidency, 34 Govenors, most state legislatures....Demonic rat hate just isn't selling as well as it used to.
a power grab by the republicans? how do you figure? we have a set of election rules in this country to determine who is going to be president. it is based on how many total votes each state has in congres, california has 55, 53 representatives, and two senators. arizona has 11, 9 representatives and two senators. the other states also have their electoral votes. this is so that each state has a real say in who is to be president, rather than a few cities around the country,
personally i dont want a few cities like new york, chicago, LA, san francisco, etc, to tel the rest of the country who will be president. the one that wins the general election for president is the one that gets to 270 electoral votes, and in this case it was trump. he won the popular vote in enough states to get to 270 electoral votes.
perhaps you should actually educate yourself on how preidential elections work before you make such an ignorant post like this one. it would save you from future embarrassment.
If there is an "ignorant" post here it is yours due to the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by millions of votes. The electoral college is not bound to follow the popular vote which they did not this time.
Check your facts please. Stop readng fake new and listing to Trump the crazy man.
Legal Definition of electoral college
: a body of electors; specifically: the body of electors chosen from each state to elect the president and vice president of the U.S.
I keep hearing the Hillary lost the election. She didn't. Trump was place in office thanks to the archaic Electoral Collage and the entire corrupt Republican Party that did a massive power grab at the expense of the people. Now to make matters worse the Repubs will hang onto a mentally ill Trump to stay in power.
I'm not saying that "all" Repubs are bad it's just the rotten apples that infest our congress. There is also a misdirection when our gov't is spoken of as a "democracy" when it's not.
America is a Republic.
Don't believe me??? Recite the "pledge of allegiance" to find out which word is used.
Back to the college......
IMO the college did serve a real purpose when America was created. Today the college is just a tool to fool the people into thinking their vote for POTUS really is counted while those votes mean nothing.
How else could America get saddled with a moron sick man like........Trump??????
Why would any state other than New York, California, Texas, Florida or Illinois want to be part of the United States? What you're suggesting is the opposite of democracy.
Only five times in our history did the person who became President not have the most votes but still won the electoral college.
Clinton and Obama won both their elections with the most votes.
The following Presidents all had fewer votes than their opponent but still became President
1824: John Quincy Adams.
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes.
1888: Benjamin Harrison.
2000: George W. Bush.
2016: Donald Trump
What does it matter how many times it's happened? There was a very good reason this system was put into place and that was to ensure smaller states had a voice in the election process,thus they would not be dictated to by the larger states.
The two most disliked people in this country ran for POTUS and one of 'em got it.
Is this a great country or what?
Yes, this is true. I remember when I voted I thought long and hard on who to vote for for POTUS. Didn't want Hillary and was very wary of crazy man Trump.
In the end I voted for the devil I knew......Hillary.
Then I went home and had a beer to wash that vote away...........
If there is an "ignorant" post here it is yours due to the fact that Hillary won the popular vote by millions of votes. The electoral college is not bound to follow the popular vote which they did not this time.
Check your facts please. Stop readng fake new and listing to Trump the crazy man.
Legal Definition of electoral college
: a body of electors; specifically: the body of electors chosen from each state to elect the president and vice president of the U.S.
what you seem to forget is that it is up to the states to apportion their electoral votes. if the state chose to give the majority of votes to the winner based on what percentage of popular votes cast in that state, then that is up to them.
and your definition makes your post on this rubbish. second the national popular vote, of which you are speaking, DOES NOT COUNT FOR ANYTHING, only the popular vote in each individual state. and trump won the popular vote in enough states to give him enough electoral votes to win the election. this system has worked for more than 240 years now.
and by the way, the parties in each state sign up electors and bind them to their promise on the first ballot to vote for the person that wins the popular vote in each particular state.
so no i am not the ignorant one here, you are, since you want to assume that the electoral college is based at the national level and not the state level. sorru but you need to properly educate yourself on the electoral college, and how voting for president actually works.
one more thing to note, trump was in fact winning the popular vote until california and hawaii weighed in. there is a reason that the electoral college exists, and that is to give the voters in smaller states equal weight based on population to the larger states.
ask yourself this, do you really want a few large cities across the nation to determine who the president is? most people when they educate themselves will tell you no they dont. sorry i dont want a few large cities, like new york, chicago, los angeles, san francisco, etc. to decide who is to be president. if you go by the national popular vote count only, you disenfranchise voters across the country. with the electoral college, all voters have a say across the country.
The electoral college is not bound to follow the popular vote which they did not this time.
You're right, they don't have to. Hillary was such a bad candidate that even in liberal Washington the electoral voters couldn't all stomach casting a vote for her.
Try building a platform that doesn't concentrate on special rights for whatever your favorite sub group of the day is and push for making AMERICA better, not just whoever votes for you (like Obama). Fortunately Democrats are so smug, self righteous and sure of their own superiority they won't learn and will continue to lose at all levels of government.
The Republicans are barely siding with Trump. They do it as little as they absolutely can, with much of their leadership being openly hostile toward Donald Trump (and he's of course hostile back). It's true that they only care that there's an (R) in the White House, but let's not pretend the Republicans actually feel like they won a major victory. Trump is their problem too.
As for the Electoral College, I'd only make two changes to it:
1) allow for faithless electors; the point of the electoral college is to avoid a democratic vote; the founding fathers didn't trust the people to choose the president directly (seems wise; the average American seems to think a socialist and a liberal are the same thing... which is incredibly ****ing stupid), so instead, electors, who were presumably distinguished members of society, would choose on their behalf, more rationally and thoughtfully. Alas, many states requires they vote for whom they pledged for, and I think this is unwise.
2) votes should be awarded proportionally. If a state has 10 votes, and Clinton won 6, and Trump won 4, there's no sensible reason that Clinton gets all 10. Trump should get 4 and Clinton should get 6. The electors should vote out of their district, based on the results of their districts election, not based on what the majority of a single state voted for.
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