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View Poll Results: Should voting age be raised to 30?
Yes, raise the voting age to 30 17 13.82%
No, keep the voting age 18 106 86.18%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2017, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If you can enlist and defend your country at the age of 18 then you should be able to

a. Drink alcoholic beverages

b. Vote in ALL elections

Ann Coulter should go and get stuffed.
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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They have it wrong. Given how the over 55 crowd has screwed up the future for the under 35 crowd, they have it backwards. Perhaps the over 55 crowd are the ones that should not be allowed to vote
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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The left takes the bait every single time.

You realize Ann Coulter makes a living by selling books and booking speaking engagements. And she sells more books and gets paid for more speeches by taunting the left and their reaction to it. Saying that college students should not vote will bring out more of them to protest her speeches which makes her more popular to the right.

Good for you by doing your part to make Ann a little richer.

Bingo.

They fall for it every single time too.
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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They have it wrong. Given how the over 55 crowd has screwed up the future for the under 35 crowd, they have it backwards. Perhaps the over 55 crowd are the ones that should not be allowed to vote
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Now think carefully about this.

Do you think this 55 over crowd you speak of, also screwed up how they raised their kids?
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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They have it wrong. Given how the over 55 crowd has screwed up the future for the under 35 crowd, they have it backwards. Perhaps the over 55 crowd are the ones that should not be allowed to vote
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I don't know if I would go that far. But I understand your sentiment because while it may be unpopular to admit (what politician would admit this?), a lot of people have the mentality of "as long as I get what I want, screw everyone else, including future generations". And even though no politician would say this, older people are far from being immune from that kind of selfish thinking.

Decision making skews towards the interest of the older crowd because (1) they participate more frequently which admittedly can be the fault of apathetic younger people who don't vote or don't make it a high enough priority; but also (2) because the median voter age is by default higher than the median citizen age because people in their first 17 years don't get to participate the process of making decisions that are going to affect them much stronger and for a much longer period of time than people who are in the last season of their lives already. And there are people, who have shown themselves on this thread, who want to make this situation worse? Why?

No one "bit" on my post earlier in the thread. An idea that would be better than unconstitutionally and unethically disenfranchising people under 30 would be to give at least conditional voting rights to people under 18. Even if it's structured differently than a general vote. For example, a cabinet of younger people that have demonstrated an exceptional and rare level of excellence in scholastic achievement or public service could be put in a real decision making capacity of some sort (for education decisions that will likely affect them or their younger siblings or for having a vote in Social Security decisions that they will be the ones dealing with long after the traditional voters are gone). They would be able to run circles around a large chunk of the current voting population who are either uninformed, or worse, proud to be uninformed based on their own confirmation biases.

I understand there would be all kinds of legal and procedural barriers that would almost certainly shoot down such an idea for the foreseeable future, but I sure as heck think it's a better idea than raising the voting age to 30. And I would put my bets on it having a much better outcome for our country than going in the opposite, wrong direction.
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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18 to 75 but mandatory. No vote. No DL
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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18 to 75 but mandatory. No vote. No DL
So now my bright, engaged, educated late-septugenarian parents don't get to vote. That should go over well with them.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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I think only property owners should be allowed to vote.
No, only those who served in the military honourably.
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