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I explained why I quit going to Western Europe up thread. I think American tourists are in danger in Europe from Muslim attacks. The young women that are the subject of this thread are an example. There have been many recent examples, if one reads between the lines in the Press.
I have chosen not to go to Europe ever again. That is my response to the EU Muslim attacks on a weekly basis. There are many other lovely places in the world to visit.
We all make our own decisions. I feel comfortable with mine. I assume you do, too. We don't make choices for anyone but ourselves.
I feel more in danger here in US (by local criminals and drunk drivers) than during my travels to Europe (or any reason).
mental illness? pushing someone into traffic is mental illness, randomly attacking someone with a knife may be mental illness.
putting acid in a bottle to deliberately pour it on someone? That's not mental illness, that's just evil.
Not sure what the difference is from a mental health standpoint between randomly attacking someone with a knife and randomly attacking someone with acid?
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You don't have to go back very far at all to run into the days of sanitariums and lobotomies, so it must be a very narrow time frame you are idolizing.
In terms of Mental Institutions, many people didn't belong in them, however people who were a danger to society and who were severally mentally disturbed did.
Whilst I am not suggesting going back to the times of sanitariums, I find it sad that people in need of help, support, crisis support and emergency beds can not always get the support they need.
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mental illness? pushing someone into traffic is mental illness, randomly attacking someone with a knife may be mental illness.
putting acid in a bottle to deliberately pour it on someone? That's not mental illness, that's just evil.
As for putting acid in a bottle and specifically attacking American tourists it seems quite convienient to just label it mental illness. This was also in Marseille, which has a large Muslim population.
I'm not sure I follow. So the attacks on say, Nice or Paris or Manchester or London were done in the hopes of killing a few Americans who might have been in the crowd?
Probably not but it's not that hard to pick out people who are likely to be Americans in the crowd in Europe, if someone wants to do so. For whatever reason. Contrary to what some people on here have said, as in "how did the attacker know the girls were American?".
Do we acknowledge that people have rights and freedoms as individuals that preclude them being "supported" by being "incarcerated" or do we go back to those days of relying upon family members, or a general practitioner taking the word of a spouse to have someone institutionalized against their will? It is not necessarily the case the help is unavailable, but rather the help is refused by those most needing it.
Facts are simple; there is no way possible to force compliance of someone who is deemed mentally ill but refuses to take their medications, refuses to make themselves available for routine treatments, does, or has not yet, displayed violent tendencies towards themselves or others.
These people have rights and freedoms stipulated as pre-eminent in most western countries and until they demonstrate some criminal intent, are free to live their lives in however outlandish a fashion that my be.
What is really amazing is that the young women who were the victims have already come out to blame the illness not their attacker. I think that says a lot.
What says even more that they are publicly praying for the attacker. True Christians still exist.
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Conundrum time.
Do we acknowledge that people have rights and freedoms as individuals that preclude them being "supported" by being "incarcerated" or do we go back to those days of relying upon family members, or a general practitioner taking the word of a spouse to have someone institutionalized against their will? It is not necessarily the case the help is unavailable, but rather the help is refused by those most needing it.
Facts are simple; there is no way possible to force compliance of someone who is deemed mentally ill but refuses to take their medications, refuses to make themselves available for routine treatments, does, or has not yet, displayed violent tendencies towards themselves or others.
These people have rights and freedoms stipulated as pre-eminent in most western countries and until they demonstrate some criminal intent, are free to live their lives in however outlandish a fashion that my be.
People who are sevarally mentally disturbed are usually detained under Mental Health Legislation, in most countries this requires a Doctor or approved mental health professional.
This is called being 'Sectioned', you can be released from hospital under a Community Treatment Order but must abide by the conditions or you can be recalled to Hospital.
Probably not but it's not that hard to pick out people who are likely to be Americans in the crowd in Europe, if someone wants to do so. For whatever reason. Contrary to what some people on here have said, as in "how did the attacker know the girls were American?".
I just love watching the "worldly" Leftists try to run cover for Muslim fanatics
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