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Old 09-16-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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So uh, basically the old DACA system?

It's amusing to watch the cult immediately cave on this issue hey thought was so important up until the moment Trump did a 180 on them.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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So uh, basically the old DACA system?

It's amusing to watch the cult immediately cave on this issue hey thought was so important up until the moment Trump did a 180 on them.
So, illegals brought here as children are given visas when they become adults?

Can you please provide a link to that ruling or law?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Amnesty for Dreamers? And a path to citizenship?

I'm for it, but how will it play with Donald Trump's political base and his fellow Republicans in Congress?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.
No. They can return with the same illegal aliens that brought them here keeping their families together which many have expressed is an issue.

Their children can be born in their country, the one to which they have allegiance.

No reason to create a special class of individuals when the law already has a remedy for the "situation", apprehend, detain and deport. They came here with their illegal alien parents who did not know the culture or the language and they can all go back and pick up where they left off.

If we reward these illegal aliens, it will NEVER end.

No reason to compromise. Why have laws if when they are broken we are going to "compromise" to favor the criminals?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No. They can return with the same illegal aliens that brought them here keeping their families together which many have expressed is an issue.

Their children can be born in their country, the one to which they have allegiance.

No reason to create a special class of individuals when the law already has a remedy for the "situation", apprehend, detain and deport. They came here with their illegal alien parents who did not know the culture or the language and they can all go back and pick up where they left off.

If we reward these illegal aliens, it will NEVER end.

No reason to compromise. Why have laws if when they are broken we are going to "compromise" to favor the criminals?
Excellent point.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So uh, basically the old DACA system?

It's amusing to watch the cult immediately cave on this issue hey thought was so important up until the moment Trump did a 180 on them.
No.

If you had paid attention to what Trump has been saying about this months and months ago, you'd know he's been making a distinction between how he will treat "the Dreamers," compared to how he will treat all the adults illegal aliens who either overstayed visas or snuck across the border.

There are plenty of people who voted for Trump who never had a problem if we were more accommodating to how we treated illegal aliens who were brought here by their parents, me included.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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So uh, basically the old DACA system?

It's amusing to watch the cult immediately cave on this issue hey thought was so important up until the moment Trump did a 180 on them.

Is it caving or has Trump realized that the problem with illegal aliens and programs like DACA are much bigger and more difficult to solve then he ever thought? How could Trump know how much people love their illegal alien neighbors and how they are willing to fight so hard for them from DC to college campus?

It should be simple, people came here illegally, breaking our federal immigration laws so they should be arrested and sent back. There are very few countries in the world that treat illegal immigrants as well as we do. It is a real slap in the face to legal immigrants who followed our laws, paid their dues and earned their rightful spots in our society.

The problem is real and we all know it but the people that want to give the store away have bigger hearts then they do brains and it is all going to collapse someday.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Here is my compromise. Provide all the children brought here illegally open ended visas.

They get to stay, and their children born here will be citizens.

Like with all other visa holders, they won't be eligible to vote, they will be deported for breaking the laws and they won't be eligible for some citizen benefits.

They can apply for citizenship just like anyone else.
So just amnesty.

Hell no!

Go back home and apply for legal immigration like everyone else!
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Amnesty for Dreamers? And a path to citizenship?

I'm for it, but how will it play with Donald Trump's political base and his fellow Republicans in Congress?
There has already been a path to citizenship that every legal immigrant takes. It's called "apply for legal immigration."
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