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Old 09-19-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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Collusion isn't a crime. Its the empty taco. Like the democrat party itself, an empty shell.

 
Old 09-19-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Collusion isn't a crime. Its the empty taco. Like the democrat party itself, an empty shell.
who told the charges would be limited to collusion and who told that collusion with a foreign power against the USA is not a crime. there are a whole bunch of crimes Manafort can be charged with, surprised you did not know this already...
 
Old 09-19-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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who told the charges would be limited to collusion and who told that collusion with a foreign power against the USA is not a crime. there are a whole bunch of crimes Manafort can be charged with, surprised you did not know this already...
Not surprised you didn't know the topic is about Michael Cohen.
 
Old 09-19-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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WASHINGTON — Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election cancelled a Tuesday interview with longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen because they believe Cohen broke an agreement by speaking with the media.
The committee will now subpoena Cohen, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.


By mutual agreement, according to the source, neither lawmakers nor Cohen's camp were to speak to reporters about the testimony, according to the source. Committee staffers were upset when Cohen circulated a statement prior to the meeting that included a blanket denial of collusion with Russia.
Senate Cancels Meeting With Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen


Actually this is great news, because now the idiot will be subpoenaed and have to testify under oath in an open hearing!
Or the idiot is pretty smart and since he is going to be under oath, he doesn't have to say a single blessed thing.


might be this was on purpose.
 
Old 09-19-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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who told the charges would be limited to collusion and who told that collusion with a foreign power against the USA is not a crime. there are a whole bunch of crimes Manafort can be charged with, surprised you did not know this already...
first, it is true that collusion isn't a crime. there is no statute associated with an American candidate getting help (non monetary) from some foreign source.


Now, as for Manafort, there is no question that the Muller investigation (that was charged with determining if there was collusion) is seeking "by any means necessary" and has moved well beyond any Trump/Russia connection and is focusing on other things to get a win. just as the last one did exactly the same with Scooter Libby.


its disgusting.
 
Old 09-19-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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China and Russia are included. They are part of the package deal that sides with NK.

Do you really want a war with China, whose military is triple the size of the American military.
I know you were responding to another poster, but I had to comment on your assertion.

No sane person wants a war with anyone, certainly not with a nuclear armed country.
However, while China does have massive amounts of troops, in a conventional war, they would lose to America.
We are technically superior with our weapon systems, both with our Navy and Air Force.
That said, God forbid we ever go to war in this day and age. The Chinese feel the same way, and I would seriously question whether they would come to NK's defense. The lunatics actions would give them all the cover they needed to just walk away and not get involved.

As to the overall subject, this Russia rubbish should never have taken hold and really needs to come to an end.
The (D's) and by extension their complicit liberal media have turned this excuse for Hillary losing into a election into a massive wrench into the machinery, clogging up our ability to get more serious matters attended to.
Trump has no need to wag the dog, because he knows he did not do anything illegal. Most of those pushing this nonsense behind the scenes know it to. But so long as they can keep the mindless fools hyped up with it, they will try to milk it for as long as possible.

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Old 09-19-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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WASHINGTON — Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election cancelled a Tuesday interview with longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen because they believe Cohen broke an agreement by speaking with the media.
The committee will now subpoena Cohen, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.


By mutual agreement, according to the source, neither lawmakers nor Cohen's camp were to speak to reporters about the testimony, according to the source. Committee staffers were upset when Cohen circulated a statement prior to the meeting that included a blanket denial of collusion with Russia.
Senate Cancels Meeting With Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen


Actually this is great news, because now the idiot will be subpoenaed and have to testify under oath in an open hearing!
but he only hires the best people.
 
Old 09-19-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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WASHINGTON — Senate investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election cancelled a Tuesday interview with longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen because they believe Cohen broke an agreement by speaking with the media.
The committee will now subpoena Cohen, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.


By mutual agreement, according to the source, neither lawmakers nor Cohen's camp were to speak to reporters about the testimony, according to the source. Committee staffers were upset when Cohen circulated a statement prior to the meeting that included a blanket denial of collusion with Russia.
Senate Cancels Meeting With Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen


Actually this is great news, because now the idiot will be subpoenaed and have to testify under oath in an open hearing!
So a member of the committee leaked this to the press?

Oh, the irony.
 
Old 09-19-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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first, it is true that collusion isn't a crime. there is no statute associated with an American candidate getting help (non monetary) from some foreign source.


Now, as for Manafort, there is no question that the Muller investigation (that was charged with determining if there was collusion) is seeking "by any means necessary" and has moved well beyond any Trump/Russia connection and is focusing on other things to get a win. just as the last one did exactly the same with Scooter Libby.


its disgusting.
focusing in deterring if the campaign manager was a paid operative of a foreign government is "by any means necessary"? but the 7 Benghazi hearings that turned up literally nothing was cool with you, right?
 
Old 09-19-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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The (D's) and by extension their complicit liberal media have turned this excuse for Hillary losing into a election into a massive wrench into the machinery, clogging up our ability to get more serious matters attended to.
Trump has no need to wag the dog, because he knows he did not do anything illegal. Most of those pushing this nonsense behind the scenes know it to. But so long as they can keep the mindless fools hyped up with it, they will try to milk it for as long as possible.

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(shortened you post to the bit i am responding too)


Obama and the Ds have had to put up with fake blown up lies for 8 years. From birtherism to benghazi we have to deal with a never ending stream of "fake news' from the CONs.

The Republicans refused to even hear Obama's pick for SCOTUS! Mitch made a public promise to block anyone Hillary might have picked for as long as it took.
Never before in US history has a party STOLEN a SCOTUS pick . Never not once before has any party done this. Mitch and Ryan Obstructed endlessly and CLOSED DOWN the federal government just to block Obama.
Never in modern history has a party obstructed, stolen and lied like the Republican party has done for the last 8 years.
So when you whine about the dems and russia, i say what did you think? Did you really think your side would be able lie and cheat , obstruct and steal endlessly without a response? Really?

well THIS is the politics you wanted. You voted for it when you voted for the GOP and Trump. Now you reap what you sow.


And guess what, it will get much much worse because the Dems have the highest recorded number of challengers (internal) ever recorded, over twice as high as the republicans had in their big tea party rebellion. you will be facing a more extreme meaner Democrat Party then you have ever seen. And it is all your fault for continuing to push push and push until the dems were left with no choice but to respond in kind.

it is worth noting charges are being brought against Trump's Campaign Manager, and it is very likely more will be charged and charged in STATE where Trump cannot save them.
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