Do you want to live in a country where the government forces you into public demonstrations of patriotism? (Marines, soldiers)

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Unsurprisingly, you've thoroughly missed the point.

It has nothing to do with it being "bad" or "good"

yeah I know. It is about fake patriotism.

and their right to protest.

It is getting soooooooo old

No one is "forced" Relax

[ambient]

Originally Posted by xray731

I don't fear Trump - I did fear Obama when he started to divide the races even more than they were and apologizing to other world countries for our nation.

And you think Trump, by contrast of his behavior, has united the races? LOL

[reed067]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Not sure why it is so bad. Maybe it is the one nation under God part, I don't know. sheesh

Explain those words to a kindergartener so they understand every word of it. Or would you rather to them say it and go though the emotions and comply? God was added but I think you know that.

[Roboteer]

Do you want to live in a country where the government forces you into public demonstrations of patriotism?


Nope. Fortunately nobody is trying to do that here, liberal delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.

Because that's exactly what conservatives seem to want

As usual, liberals must start their thread with a lie, so they can pretend they have a point somewhere and fool people into taking them seriously.

[ambient]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

yeah I know. It is about fake patriotism.

and their right to protest.

It is getting soooooooo old

No one is "forced" Relax

You're looking at this rather short-sightedly.

No one is being forced TODAY...

But once the President starts encouraging retaliation, maybe that takes hold... And next time, a President encourages a different kind of retaliation for a different situation... And so on down the path of institutionalization, where the government holds real power over what you do and do not say. It starts somewhere. Be smart enough to recognize it at the time rather than in hindsight.

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by reed067

Explain those words to a kindergartener so they understand every word of it. Or would you rather to them say it and go though the emotions and comply? God was added but I think you know that.

I don't think it is a very important issue to be completely honest.

I went to Sunday school, but i was never "forced" to go. I don't believe in Forcing,

so meh.

[lilyflower3191981]

Originally Posted by ambient

You're looking at this rather short-sightedly.

No one is being forced TODAY...

But once the President starts encouraging retaliation, maybe that takes hold... And next time, a President encourages a different kind of retaliation for a different situation... And so on down the path of institutionalization, where the government holds real power over what you do and do not say. It starts somewhere. Be smart enough to recognize it at the time rather than in hindsight.

okay you got a point.

[Dreamingx]

It is weird. And then you have our president publicly calling these players names. If Obama ever did that they would have never let him live it down...Trump had the complexion for protection.

[reed067]

Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981

I don't think it is a very important issue to be completely honest.

I went to Sunday school, but i was never "forced" to go. I don't believe in Forcing,

so meh.

Yes it is! IF you tell a child that they have to recite "whatever" and you don't teach them the meaning of whatever then you are forcing them.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by ambient

Because that's exactly what conservatives seem to want by cheering the recent involvement of the President in this whole NFL kerfuffle. .

No, it isn't.