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So the question is "who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than the person who honored it?"
Do I have this correct?
Yep. Also more power than any available or agreed upon enforcers. You may not necessarily know up front that they have this power.
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Originally Posted by zzzSnorlax
Sure. Contract spells out 10 guys as enforcers, Jim Bob signs contract for X and breaks it. Little do you know he has 50 family members on his side. The 10 guys try to enforce consequence Y (as spelled out in the contract) and get slaughtered. Now who enforces it?
This is EXACTLY the kind of situation that causes factions and states to arise in the first place.
Yep. Also more power than any available or agreed upon enforcers. You may not necessarily know up front that they have this power.
7 billion people on the planet and you're interested in how I would contractually protect myself from a singular hypothetical?
Partly honored at what I assume is your perceived admiration of my intelligence. Partly horrified that you think I have the answers to everything. Then again, the statist believes the government has the answer to everything too.
Ok, let's do this (so so so bizarre).
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than the person who honored it?
First we adjust the question to fit me because I'm now free so I hope you don't mind me doing so...
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than I do and I've honored it?
I hope you don't mind but I also assumed that I was the one that honored the contract. Correct me if you want me to be the party that breaches.
Drum roll for official answer...
I would have clauses in all my contracts that specify penalties for breaches that puts both parties in front of a Dispute Resolution Council (DRC) to discuss the matter.
Proceed with the follow ups. I know they are coming.
7 billion people on the planet and you're interested in how I would contractually protect myself from a singular hypothetical?
Partly honored at what I assume is your perceived admiration of my intelligence. Partly horrified that you think I have the answers to everything. Then again, the statist believes the government has the answer to everything too.
Ok, let's do this (so so so bizarre).
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than the person who honored it?
First we adjust the question to fit me because I'm now free so I hope you don't mind me doing so...
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than I do and I've honored it?
I hope you don't mind but I also assumed that I was the one that honored the contract. Correct me if you want me to be the party that breaches.
Drum roll for official answer...
I would have clauses in all my contracts that specify penalties for breaches that puts both parties in front of a Dispute Resolution Council (DRC) to discuss the matter.
Proceed with the follow ups. I know they are coming.
Man this weird.
Person who broke the contract refuses to go to your council. If they dont honor the rest of the contract why the heck would they honor the sub clauses. They broke the contract so u will force them to honor it with another part of the contract? Hopefully I don't need to point out how inane that is. Now what?
Person who broke the contract refuses to go to your council. Now what?
I would put clauses in my contracts saying a breach claim by one of the parties that results in one of the parties not agreeing to go before the DRC voids the contract.
Follow up?
EDIT: You've edited your post. We must move slowly as I know you have a keen interest in my personal life. I will wait until you give me your official follow up so we can proceed.
I would put clauses in my contracts saying a breach claim by one of the parties that results in one of the parties not agreeing to go before the DRC voids the contract.
Follow up?
EDIT: You've edited your post. We must move slowly as I know you have a keen interest in my personal life. I will wait until you give me your official follow up so we can proceed.
You have already fulfilled you side of the contract, voiding it at this point is tantamount to them getting away with theft scott free and basically exactly the result they would want to happen.
I am tapping away on a cell phone cause I'm travelling on business so it takes me a second to edit mistakes/get my words set up the way I want them to be.
7 billion people on the planet and you're interested in how I would contractually protect myself from a singular hypothetical?
Partly honored at what I assume is your perceived admiration of my intelligence. Partly horrified that you think I have the answers to everything. Then again, the statist believes the government has the answer to everything too.
Ok, let's do this (so so so bizarre).
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than the person who honored it?
First we adjust the question to fit me because I'm now free so I hope you don't mind me doing so...
Who will enforce the contract when the person breaking it has more power than I do and I've honored it?
I hope you don't mind but I also assumed that I was the one that honored the contract. Correct me if you want me to be the party that breaches.
Drum roll for official answer...
I would have clauses in all my contracts that specify penalties for breaches that puts both parties in front of a Dispute Resolution Council (DRC) to discuss the matter.
Proceed with the follow ups. I know they are coming.
Man this weird.
To be honest, what is weird is your continuing efforts to avoid giving any real answers to how things would work in a non state society, and pretending to believe that honest inquiries as to how things would work to be bizarre.
Im not going to bother with the video, but if you think you have any right to do something against the law because " God told me its my right to do so", you are seriously delusional.
The people , ostensibly through the government , decide the rights accorded to its citizens, in reality. You can pretend otherwise, but that pretense is irrelevant in real life.
No Statutory Law, can alter the Bill of Rights. The 2nd Amendment defends against that crap, moving anywhere.
Im not going to bother with the video, but if you think you have any right to do something against the law because " God told me its my right to do so", you are seriously delusional.
The people , ostensibly through the government , decide the rights accorded to its citizens, in reality. You can pretend otherwise, but that pretense is irrelevant in real life.
You should seriously watch the video before making absurd comments about it.
To be honest, what is weird is your continuing efforts to avoid giving any real answers to how things would work in a non state society, and pretending to believe that honest inquiries as to how things would work to be bizarre.
I too am a bit puzzled that questions about the basic concept of contract enforcement, which would be vital in this conceptual contract heavy society, are regarded as arcane and bizzarre. Suffice to say I am not convinced that you can effectively enforce breaches of contracts with more contracts. At some point force will be required and that can only be effective if you have access to a greater force than the intransigent contract breaker. In our current society, that force is the state. In an anarchy, that force is???
Last edited by zzzSnorlax; 10-01-2017 at 07:37 PM..
No Statutory Law, can alter the Bill of Rights. The 2nd Amendment defends against that crap, moving anywhere.
Who said it could?
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