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Old 09-29-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: New York
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Here's how the usual Liberal/Conservative race argument goes:

Liberal: whites are racist against minorities! just look at the crime rates, poverty rates, and test scores, of blacks and Hispanics. must be racism!

Conservative: what about Asians?

Liberal: *crickets*
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Here's how the usual Liberal/Conservative race argument goes:

Liberal: whites are racist against minorities! just look at the crime rates, poverty rates, and test scores, of blacks and Hispanics. must be racism!

Conservative: what about Asians?

Liberal: *crickets*
Nice Story............
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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I hear so many excuses as to why conservatives are against this protest, against that one. Then I tried to think of what type of movement for racial equality would conservatives support. I couldn't come up with one. Why don't conservatives just admit they don't support racial equality? That all their excuses are just coverups for the fact that they don't want a fair criminal justice system or racial equality. Let's go through some real-life examples:

Athletes/Non-athletes
When NFL players kneeled during the national anthem, conservatives said athletes should just shut up and play.
--but--
When non-athletes protest like during marches in D.C. and New York, conservatives have a problem with that too.

Flag/Non-flag
When NFL players kneeled during the anthem, conservatives said it was disrespectful of veterans.
--but--
There have been plenty of racial equality protests that take place when the national anthem isn't being played and when the flag isn't being flown. Conservatives still don't support them.

Hollywood/Non-Hollywood
When actors make political speeches during award shows, conservatives say Hollywood needs to stay out of it.
--but--
When millions of people across the country who aren't actors make the same points, conservatives bash them.

Violent/Non-violent

When black people get into physical altercations or damage property after hearing verdicts of cops being found not guilty, conservatives bash them for being violent.
--but--
When black people make peaceful protests such as NBA players simply wearing t-shirts that say "I Can't Breathe", conservatives call the act inappropriate.

Rich/Middle-class
When Hollywood, athletes, or other rich liberals make pleas for criminal justice reform, conservatives say those people are out of touch with what America wants because they're rich.
--but--
99% of the starters and participants in protests and racial equality movements are middle-class or poor; conservatives put down these people.

So will conservatives admit that they're just faking when it comes to being pro-flag, anti-rich, anti-athlete, etc.? Will conservatives finally be honest and admit that they will be against ANY AND ALL calls for criminal justice reform and racial equality? Tell the truth, shame the devil.
To answer your quwstion:

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I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
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I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
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I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Conservatives have supported all the movements for racial and social justice!!! They just have a statute of limitation to wait 50 years before voicing that they think the movement was the right thing, and that those against them were wrong. They hope that after 50 years most of the victims will be dead and they can...."well....that was 50 years ago....it was wrong....but there is nothing we can do about that now because they are dead.".

You have to understand that supremacist need to believe that the GAME IS FAIR.....in order to feel naturally superior. Hence, its imperative that all claims of unfairness has to be discredited, while they simultaneous highlight dysfunctions in other groups. When they are pointing out issues in other groups....they are really comparing that group to themselves....to show their superiority in the juxtaposition. You will NEVER see them point out an issue if their group is just as guilty of it. Why talk about that because it does not reflect their superiority.
"The Civil rights Act of 1964
By party

The original House version:[22]
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[23]
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:[22]
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[22]
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
  • (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Do you EVER NOT talk about race?
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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yes the end of affirmative action.
Exactly! It's the only concrete example of institutionalized racism that exists.

Last edited by Colorado^; 09-29-2017 at 11:17 AM..
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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If Republicans have to go back to the 60s to find a response, how do you justify your behavior (anti-racial equality, anti-criminal justice reform) since then? If you're proud to post what Republicans did in the 60s, are you ashamed of how you've acted/voted since then?
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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lol
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Fort Benton, MT
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Why would I support something that doesn't exist. ALL RACES ARE EQUAL! It's the democrats and race hustlers that keep bringing this crap up. Every one of these young black guys that got shot by the police, would have been shot if they were any other color, as well. If the police officers had of been black, they still would have gotten shot. If the police officers had of been female, they still would have gotten shot. They were doomed by the choices they made. When was the last time a young black man was shot by a police officer walking to class at MIT, Harvard, etc. When was the last time a young black man was shot by a police officer during a business meeting, a work lunch. If these police officers are just walking around, looking for a black man to shoot, why hasn't this happened?


These are made up protests. What they should be protesting, is the fact that most inner city kids don't graduate high school. That most inner city adults can barely read. That most inner city adults have arrest records longer than their academic accomplishments.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:32 PM
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Some conservatives believe that those minorities and disenfranchised individuals who achieve and succeed despite inequality are better for it than those whom the playing field was leveled so they could achieve.

What is odd is you can always hear testimonies from liberals and conservatives about a particular individual who against all odds managed to succeed despite being disadvantaged. I think both sides want us to know that their way is better.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Why would I support something that doesn't exist. ALL RACES ARE EQUAL! It's the democrats and race hustlers that keep bringing this crap up. Every one of these young black guys that got shot by the police, would have been shot if they were any other color, as well. If the police officers had of been black, they still would have gotten shot. If the police officers had of been female, they still would have gotten shot. They were doomed by the choices they made. When was the last time a young black man was shot by a police officer walking to class at MIT, Harvard, etc. When was the last time a young black man was shot by a police officer during a business meeting, a work lunch. If these police officers are just walking around, looking for a black man to shoot, why hasn't this happened?
Black kids killed on their way to class or a party or a game, that happens a lot. I get that you don't hear about it on Fox News but if you ever were to change the channel, you'd see it.

No one's saying the police are doing drive-bys. And I get that you suggest we are saying that so you can avoid having to discuss the truth. The truth is that where a white kid would get ignored, the black kid get's profiled. Where the white kid would get profiled, the black kid gets arrested. Where the white kid would get arrested, the black kid gets shot in the back with the officer testifying that he had to shoot because he feared for his life. Republicans have no interest in erasing this disparity in treatment.

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These are made up protests. What they should be protesting, is the fact that most inner city kids don't graduate high school. That most inner city adults can barely read. That most inner city adults have arrest records longer than their academic accomplishments.
Enough about middle America and the Appalachians.
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