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Like the title says "How would liberalism hurt you"? Why do you despise it so much? What would be the cost to your quality of life....if any? If it does not and will not hurt you....why are you so against it?
Just playing with labels, liberal in this case means a socialist state. So far the socialist state as presented by the hijacked democrat party means supression of free speech, unethical claims and lies protected by the media propaganda machine. Political opponents charged with every despicable label to diminish and create enemies of political opponents in place of argument.
Challenge the socialist beliefs and lose your job. Political elite stand apart frm the justice system while the media propaganda machine stays silent.
The head of the DOJ falsifies a warrant to spy on journalists with the knowledge of the president and the media looks the other way. The head of the DOJ meets with the spouse of a person under investigation, security shoo away reporters as if they want to keep the meetuing secret. The next day the spouse is free of charges.
What's funny is liberal policies tend to win in the end. Women's rights, Desegregation, Gay Rights, Abortion, Healthcare, Marijuana, etc. Conservative policies like to block and prolong implementation, but eventually the country gets the right set of liberal politicians and these landmark decisions or laws are made/enacted and the country moves on. So sure, things like gun control or universal healthcare might not be on the plate in the twenty-teens, but twenty or thirty years from now? I fully expect it to be implemented in one way or another.
These things never come from the legitimate legislative process, they are always imposed un democratically by courts. The deviant marriage ruling was an example of how liberals get thier way, a judge swings a gavel and our constitution takes another hit. All these things you cite other than desegregation ( most everyone does support this) are issues that the left forced unwanted change on society. All of these things have built deep resentment in red state America. One day history books may list these injustices as the building causes that led to a civil war or rebellion in this country. The smug looks will come off the snowflakes faces when patriotic Americans, whole states and most of our military sides with decency and brings all of this down in a matter of weeks. ( yes the liberals would lose a civil war in days or weeks) No doubt at that point our constitution would be clarified as to remove the loopholes you libs have used to pervert our democracy. The courts power would likely be weakened and your Marxist influences on our society erased. Regular Americans have a tipping point for what we will put up with. The election of openly politically incorrect Donald Trump should have been a wake up call for tall as to how much most Americans really hate PC and the far left cause. Americans chose to put a fool like trump in power simply to SPITE LIBERALS, does that not send a message? Keep pushing and far more trouble looms.
I foresee the possibility of a nightmare scenerio where enough millenials come of age to seize the elections of 2020 tipping the balance of power in the favor of the far left antifa types. In this event the left moves on the whole agenda however the result most red states begin secession discussions. You liberals don't understand how close this country is to the brink, huge parts of America absolutely HATE your agenda. BLM, antifa, gay marriage and trannies in the bathroom, socialism and political correctness are detested in a way a lefty from New York or California could not begin to understand. Tearing down those confederate statues angered us immensely, everything you are doing is leading to civil war. There are more confederate flags flying here than ever, people still do not accept gay marriage, people still believe in God, in spite of all your envirowhining we still drive big trucks and SUVs. You have not changed us, all you've done is angered us. You've divided the country, we are now an "us vs them" nation. If your violation of our rights leads to rebellion or civil war no protest sign or judge will help you. There is no "safe space" in a civil war.
You would not be able to say things that others find offensive
You would have to pay a bit more in taxes
You would have to tolerate your taxes going to pay for lazy people
You would not have the ability to do what you want when you want (Liberty).
That does not sound to terrible to me.
Less guns means less murders (if guns are confiscated).
We would have a more civil society on the surface.
Fully funded liberalism should result in less taxes in the long run as more people rise from poverty.
There should be fewer people taking advantage of the system with more spending on oversight.
That eventually conflicts others liberty.
"You would not be able to say things that others find offensive"
This one bears a special mention considering how frightening it is.
Indentured Servant:
I find nearly everything you say here offensive, embarrassing, racist, and often just plain stupid. I suspect others might feel the same although clearly you have your fans as well.
None the less, nobody forces me to read your inane drivel let alone respond to it. It's my choice. As it would be if you were a journalist or a TV commentator. You have every right to say what you want so long as the mods are happy. So it goes.
It is called Freedom of Speech.
And I will be damned if you or any of the other Maoist malcontents and bush league race baiters are going to take it away from me.
These things never come from the legitimate legislative process, they are always imposed un democratically by courts. The deviant marriage ruling was an example of how liberals get thier way, a judge swings a gavel and our constitution takes another hit. All these things you cite other than desegregation ( most everyone does support this) are issues that the left forced unwanted change on society. All of these things have built deep resentment in red state America. One day history books may list these injustices as the building causes that led to a civil war or rebellion in this country. The smug looks will come off the snowflakes faces when patriotic Americans, whole states and most of our military sides with decency and brings all of this down in a matter of weeks. ( yes the liberals would lose a civil war in days or weeks) No doubt at that point our constitution would be clarified as to remove the loopholes you libs have used to pervert our democracy. The courts power would likely be weakened and your Marxist influences on our society erased. Regular Americans have a tipping point for what we will put up with. The election of openly politically incorrect Donald Trump should have been a wake up call for tall as to how much most Americans really hate PC and the far left cause. Americans chose to put a fool like trump in power simply to SPITE LIBERALS, does that not send a message? Keep pushing and far more trouble looms.
I foresee the possibility of a nightmare scenerio where enough millenials come of age to seize the elections of 2020 tipping the balance of power in the favor of the far left antifa types. In this event the left moves on the whole agenda however the result most red states begin secession discussions. You liberals don't understand how close this country is to the brink, huge parts of America absolutely HATE your agenda. BLM, antifa, gay marriage and trannies in the bathroom, socialism and political correctness are detested in a way a lefty from New York or California could not begin to understand. Tearing down those confederate statues angered us immensely, everything you are doing is leading to civil war. There are more confederate flags flying here than ever, people still do not accept gay marriage, people still believe in God, in spite of all your envirowhining we still drive big trucks and SUVs. You have not changed us, all you've done is angered us. You've divided the country, we are now an "us vs them" nation. If your violation of our rights leads to rebellion or civil war no protest sign or judge will help you. There is no "safe space" in a civil war.
Sure, and 40 years from now, the "angry" southerners will have new liberal policies to hate. These things take time to process and become socially accepted. As far as a civil war? The south and flyover states wouldn't survive economically. There's a reason why the red states are among the poorest in the nation. The Ag industry is highly subsidized. Without those subsidies, the Ag industry falls apart.
Sure, and 40 years from now, the "angry" southerners will have new liberal policies to hate. These things take time to process and become socially accepted. As far as a civil war? The south and flyover states wouldn't survive economically. There's a reason why the red states are among the poorest in the nation. The Ag industry is highly subsidized. Without those subsidies, the Ag industry falls apart.
It is not just the south, add to the South the Great Plains and large parts of the mountain west. You seriously underestimate the economic success of the red states. The red states are growing, the blue shrinking and dying. Nashville, Atlanta and charlotte vs Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit? Get the picture? This is not 1861, it will not go like it did before.
You would not be able to say things that others find offensive
You would have to pay a bit more in taxes
You would have to tolerate your taxes going to pay for lazy people
You would not have the ability to do what you want when you want (Liberty).
That does not sound to terrible to me.
Less guns means less murders (if guns are confiscated).
We would have a more civil society on the surface.
Fully funded liberalism should result in less taxes in the long run as more people rise from poverty.
There should be fewer people taking advantage of the system with more spending on oversight.
That eventually conflicts others liberty.
How is it that everyone who lives under what you find not so bad, risk their lives to get out of that country? North Korea and Cuba must be paradise to you. By the way, I hear Cuba has great health care, but people risk their lives trying to float to Miami in cars to escape.
Living in the most liberal state of the Union -- Hawaii (not even one GOP legislator is voted into the State House), though I am neither a liberal nor a conservative, I can comment on its liberalism:
Health care is a right and not a privilege -- It is the law of the land in Hawaii. Every employer has to provide health insurance to any employee who works 20 hours per week. And it has been law for decades. Only tiny fraction of population is not covered. Result is longest life expectancy among all states.
Gun ownership is a privilege and not a right -- very humbug to own gun. Assault weapon banned, Hardly anyone is eligible to carry concealed weapons. No way you can buy gun in Walmart and walk with it away. Result is lowest gun death rate in nation. Mainland style bank robbery hardly heard of.
High Income Tax -- very high. But very low residential property tax rate. I prefer it to Texas' zero income tax rate but very high property tax rate.
Very high property value -- common drawback to liberal states because most Americans want to move and live there including the Conservatives.
Government mandated affordable housing -- No problem with it. In fact I took advantage to save for down payment for my first home. Good transitional measure.
Gay marriage -- First started in Hawaii. Initially objected but now accepts it.
Unisex bathroom -- I still cannot accept it. Problem is I can't urinate if a girl is behind me in the bathroom.
Big government -- It is a problem though.
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