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There used to be a time when fights were settled with talk or fists but now we have clowns that pull out their guns and shoot their foes but they are lousy shots so innocent bystanders get hit.
The thing is the liberal Dems who are the ones behind the gun grab are the same ones who say we cannot have voter ID's and we cannot round up all the illegal aliens.
The difference is they know who all the legal immigrants are as they know who all the legal gun owners are. If they pass laws only the law abiding will follow them.
Something has snapped in the public where anger is at a new high. We used to have postal employees that would collapse under the pressure and bring a gun to work to shoot their supervisors, this was coined "going postal" how did the PO stop this?
I blame society as a whole that has tossed out morals and replaced them with a me me me society where everyone is a victim for some reason and instead of going off quietly into the after world they see it more fit to go out with a bang and take as many lives with them as possible.
This kind of mentality has been going on for decades in the Middle East where someone will strap on a suicide vest and walk into a crowded market.
Life isn't worth much over there and to the wicked here in the states it is the same way.
It is really hard to stop someone who is bent on destruction and if a gun is not handy then explosives, trucks and knives are.
Bulls eye? Looks more like a misfire to me...
For you who looks at all these other numbers/statistics, have a look at how many Americans are good, legal law-abiding people who are in no way part of this "moral decay" some of you folks seem to think is rampant in America. Most people I know anyway are just as good and moral as they come.
All this other noise that gets introduced at times like these, about crimes like these, are becoming more and more obvious an attempt to deflect focus from the matter at hand. Something like how a criminal wants to create a diversion so he can commit his crime undetected. Fortunately, not all are so easily fooled...
Go on about all the rest as you will, deflect all you want, but somewhere along the line please address the question and/or issue directly at hand. What is the justification to allow the sale and possession of weapons like Paddock used to raise Hell on all those innocent people, killing nearly 60 people and injuring over 500 others in a matter of minutes?
As this thread has had suggestions about what to do to prevent this sort of tragedy I do not see any of them being very effective. Where I do see a potentially fixable gap in the security efforts is the long delay in locating the shooter's room.
If the Hotel security had installed insensitive microphones, perhaps wired through the telephone system, in each room then hotel security would have known what room the shooter was in immediately after the first shot. This could have led to a more timely response by the SWAT team that eventually broke into the room.
One problem with this is the guests would probably be made uneasy by being subject to sound monitoring. They probably do not want anyone listening to business or dope deals being discussed let alone the sounds of sex, wild or quiet. By making the audio security only sensitive enough to respond to shots would mostly relieve this objection.
While I can think of some tactics besides walking up to the door I am not a SWAT team member or a Security Guard so I will keep these to myself.
[quote=KenFresno;49732571]What gun laws would have prevented this:
1.) Magazine feed weapons are banned
2.) A comprehensive physiological evaluation prior to purchase of any weapon.
3.) All guns must be registered and the paperwork sent to the local police department.
If these two rules were in effect the shooting would have either not happened or the murder numbers would have been much much much smaller.[/QUOTE]
If you really believe this... I have a bridge I want to sell you.
They are part of the problem.
But you could confiscate every gun and then people would be going on the internet and learning how to build bombs. Or they would use knives. Or whatever. People who are determined to kill, will kill.
1.) Magazine feed weapons are banned
2.) A comprehensive physiological evaluation prior to purchase of any weapon.
3.) All guns must be registered and the paperwork sent to the local police department.
If these two rules were in effect the shooting would have either not happened or the murder numbers would have been much much much smaller.[/QUOTE]
If you really believe this... I have a bridge I want to sell you.
You don't think having access to a semi auto with 40 round mags made it easier to shoot more people then if the shooter was limited to a bolt action rifle with a top fed clip with a max size of 5 rounds?
If you are referring to the 2010 ATF letter, it said that it the particular device examimed was a firearm part, not a firearm, and therefore not subject to Firearm regulation.
That's not the same thing as "approving" it for sale.
They are part of the problem.
But you could confiscate every gun and then people would be going on the internet and learning how to build bombs. Or they would use knives. Or whatever. People who are determined to kill, will kill.
Yet, we don't allow the sale or possession of bombs, now do we?
Agreed!
Instead of trying to sniff out who's mentally ill and then attempting to rubber room our entire Country we should be analyzing why people behave the way they do today vs 100 years ago.
They behave exactly the same as they always have there are just a lot more of them so outlier events increase. Should be obvious why we have more mass killings in 2017 with a country of ~330 million people than we did in 1900 with a country of ~76 million people.
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