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Old 10-03-2017, 06:30 AM
 
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I am not anti-gun but could someone explain the need for silencer legislation to me

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Duncan argues that silencers are used by hunters and target shooters to limit potential hearing loss from gunfire. Duncan introduced a stand-alone silencer bill, dubbed the “Hearing Protection Act," in January. That legislation currently has 160 co-sponsors, including several

Could a silencer be used on the weapons used in the LV massacre. If so how many more victims would there have been
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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I am not anti-gun but could someone explain the need for silencer legislation to me

Here is what the sponsor said

Duncan argues that silencers are used by hunters and target shooters to limit potential hearing loss from gunfire. Duncan introduced a stand-alone silencer bill, dubbed the “Hearing Protection Act," in January. That legislation currently has 160 co-sponsors, including several

Could a silencer be used on the weapons used in the LV massacre. If so how many more victims would there have been
Of course it can. Even a rock can be used in that attack. In a venue like that, a truck would be far more deadly.

A silencer does NOT silence the gun like what the left and Hollywood want you to believe. The sound of gunfire would lose a few decibels and it's still FREAKING LOUD for any supersonic ammunition - bullets fly faster than the sound causing a sound boom. Subsonic ammunition can be suppressed much better, but subsonic ammunition is not as deadly as the supersonic at that distance.

How many more victims would it cause if the gunfire was slightly quieter? Nobody knows.

However, if the point is to save lives, I suggest we ban alcohol as alcohol has zero legitimate use and kills more people each year than guns. At least silencer can protect hearing and it's environmental friendly.

Mass murders like that are extremely rare events - we have better chance being stricken by lightening. It's not wise to form a policy based on extremely rare events.
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Life-long hunter here...never saw the need for a silencer...would not some ear protection work..if that's that issue?
Sounds like a spurious excuse to me.

I guess that the thought that silencers might make murder easier to get away with--never crossed their minds?
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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I am not anti-gun but could someone explain the need for silencer legislation to me

Here is what the sponsor said

Duncan argues that silencers are used by hunters and target shooters to limit potential hearing loss from gunfire. Duncan introduced a stand-alone silencer bill, dubbed the “Hearing Protection Act," in January. That legislation currently has 160 co-sponsors, including several

Could a silencer be used on the weapons used in the LV massacre. If so how many more victims would there have been
Hearing protection. No, and no.
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:47 AM
 
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Life-long hunter here...never saw the need for a silencer...would not some ear protection work..if that's that issue?
Sounds like a spurious excuse to me.

I guess that the thought that silencers might make murder easier to get away with--never crossed their minds?
Suppressors and AR-15s are great to hunt wild hogs.

Also great to protect the dogs.
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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Hearing protection. No, and no.
Protect the hearing and protect the environment.

Suppressors are widely available in developed countries in Europe and many require suppressors to fire in shooting ranges.
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Of course it can. Even a rock can be used in that attack. In a venue like that, a truck would be far more deadly.

A silencer does NOT silence the gun like what the left and Hollywood want you to believe. The sound of gunfire would lose a few decibels and it's still FREAKING LOUD for any supersonic ammunition - bullets fly faster than the sound causing a sound boom. Subsonic ammunition can be suppressed much better, but subsonic ammunition is not as deadly as the supersonic at that distance.

How many more victims would it cause if the gunfire was slightly quieter? Nobody knows.
Sure, I guess...of course, pulling the load on a round until it's sub-sonic...and firing from a point-blank distance..would ensure both silence and effectiveness, but who'd think of that?

Our special forces uses suppressed rounds...not silent..but if you were next door, you'd not hear a thing.


A sub-sonic .22 with a silencer can be very quiet indeed.

The question is why do we need to make this legal...are we to believe that protecting the hearing of a few enthusiasts..who have other options...is worth making murder easier?

What kind of trade-off is that for a healthy society?
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Suppressors and AR-15s are great to hunt wild hogs.

Also great to protect the dogs.
Have hunted hogs in the Arkansas River region--my .30-30 did the trick..kinda like the sound, actually.

Didn't think of the dogs--I shot from a stand and used beaters.

There is this as well though, the sound of shooting is a warning for everyone in the area....to be aware--not a bad thing.
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Old 10-03-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Have hunted hogs in the Arkansas River region--my .30/.30 did the trick..kinda like the sound, actually.

Didn't think of the dogs--I shot from a stand and used beaters.

There is this as well though, the sound of shooting is a warning for everyone in the area....to be aware--not a bad thing.
Not when you try to kill as many pigs as you can.
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Old 10-03-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Heard hogs go down HARD. Never thought of an AR15 for that purpose. Guess it kind of makes sense for hogs. Have a hunting friend. Hogs = mean + smart + tough + will charge you. Course from a stand... They dont climb trees.
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