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Old 10-03-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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I have seen posted, again and again on this board, that the gunman responsible for mowing down over 600 people must have been mentally ill. Yet within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

If we can't even agree that mentally unstable people should not be allowed to purchase guns, what hope have we to stop the mass murders that are occurring so frequently now that they have become commonplace here in America? We have essentially put ourselves at the mercy of gun-wielding lunatics, and we are expected to be okay with that. All the moments of silence today won't help tomorrow's victims.

 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Why does everyone always jump to the conclusion "mentally ill".
There was nothing in that shooter's past to indicate any mental instability.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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I have seen posted, again and again on this board, that the gunman responsible for mowing down over 600 people must have been mentally ill. Yet within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

If we can't even agree that mentally unstable people should not be allowed to purchase guns, what hope have we to stop the mass murders that are occurring so frequently now that they have become commonplace here in America? We have essentially put ourselves at the mercy of gun-wielding lunatics, and we are expected to be okay with that. All the moments of silence today won't help tomorrow's victims.
Actually mentally ill can not purchase a firearm, there is a form one fills out, you should read it. Clue the shooter in Vegas had no past mental health issues or even extreme views on religion, politics, or race. There was no way to predict his actions, at least none anyone seems to know about.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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I have seen posted, again and again on this board, that the gunman responsible for mowing down over 600 people must have been mentally ill. Yet within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

If we can't even agree that mentally unstable people should not be allowed to purchase guns, what hope have we to stop the mass murders that are occurring so frequently now that they have become commonplace here in America? We have essentially put ourselves at the mercy of gun-wielding lunatics, and we are expected to be okay with that. All the moments of silence today won't help tomorrow's victims.
Another BS post from an anti-gun person, with absolutely no facts.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Is there even a link between mental illness and mass shootings?
I don't think so.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Here is what happened:
Here’s the American Association of People with Disabilities explaining what was at stake: This rule would require the Social Security Administration to forward the names of all Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefit recipients who use a representative payee to help manage their benefits due to a mental impairment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). Or, in layman’s terms: The rule would have allowed bureaucrats within one of our federal agencies to bar American citizens from exercising a constitutional right — and on the highly questionable grounds that to be incapable of managing one’s finances is, by definition, to be a “mental defective.”

Read more at: No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Il | National Review


So , if you think someone that has another handling their finances is mentally ill...well I guess that is on you.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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1. Trump's primary actions in office have been to overturn any Obama-era legislation.
His base loves it.

2. The NRA lobby is all powerful, spent 8 years warning that Obama would take away their guns causing the gun industry to grow 158%. Obama was great for guns.

3. Conservatives hold executive and legislative branches. They resent healthcare. The 2 or 3 bills to overturn ACA, excluded preventative mental health care from basic coverage.

Conclusion: I wouldn't expect anything more than the usual, "we offer thoughts and prayers" from conservatives. They have shown zero interest in any preventative measures.

p.s. If the shooter is an immigrant, conservatives will take measures on immigration control. If the shooter is homegrown, you're out of luck if you expect any action from conservatives.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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He was a LICENSED gun owner.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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We have essentially put ourselves at the mercy of gun-wielding lunatics, and we are expected to be okay with that.
Yep, the government is dangerous. Glad you're coming around on this...
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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I have seen posted, again and again on this board, that the gunman responsible for mowing down over 600 people must have been mentally ill. Yet within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

If we can't even agree that mentally unstable people should not be allowed to purchase guns, what hope have we to stop the mass murders that are occurring so frequently now that they have become commonplace here in America? We have essentially put ourselves at the mercy of gun-wielding lunatics, and we are expected to be okay with that. All the moments of silence today won't help tomorrow's victims.
And they can't purchase guns. But this shooter wasn't mentally unstable.
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