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Old 10-08-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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Apparently this wanna be viral star had pulled this stunt 'hundreds' of times before without incident.

Lawsuit: Teen expelled for sitting for Pledge of Allegiance - ABC News

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A lawsuit says a Houston student's Constitutional rights were violated when she was expelled for not standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

The lawsuit says Landry, who'd been sitting for the pledge in class, was expelled Monday after doing that in the principal's office. The lawsuit says Landry returned to school Friday after the principal reversed course, saying Landry could sit.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:46 PM
 
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We are told if we want to fly we have to give up some of our constitutional rights. If the school rule says students have to stand for the P of L what is the difference. Attend another school where you can follow their rules. Meet the standard of conduct or GTFO.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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Apparently this wanna be viral star had pulled this stunt 'hundreds' of times before without incident.

Lawsuit: Teen expelled for sitting for Pledge of Allegiance - ABC News
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We are told if we want to fly we have to give up some of our constitutional rights. If the school rule says students have to stand for the P of L what is the difference. Attend another school where you can follow their rules. Meet the standard of conduct or GTFO.
??? Am I missing something? Where in that article does it say it's school policy, that she is a wanna be viral star or that she's done it hundreds of times?
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:12 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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We are told if we want to fly we have to give up some of our constitutional rights. If the school rule says students have to stand for the P of L what is the difference. Attend another school where you can follow their rules. Meet the standard of conduct or GTFO.
The right to fly isn't enumerated in the US Constitution, freedom of worship is. There is no comparison, the student sitting isn't harming the flag in some way.

& a high school principal in Texas who doesn't know that various denominations don't recite the pledge of allegiance, don't stand for the pledge, don't celebrate Christmas nor birthdays & so on? In this day & age, that's hard to believe. (& the high school in question is a public high school - all public school districts in the US, TMK, have a good idea of what's legally permissible & what isn't in terms of the US flag & the pledge of allegiance - they have to, because very few school districts have such a restricted population that they're all of a single mind about the pledge, the flag, prayer in the schools, & so on).

The Puritans, for one group, would have understood that student's objection completely, & if they were still around, they would agree & likely do the same thing.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Requiring someone to stand for the pledge is a violation of religious freedoms. I was required to sit all through school back in the 70/80s when I grew up to please my mother's religion.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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We are told if we want to fly we have to give up some of our constitutional rights. If the school rule says students have to stand for the P of L what is the difference. Attend another school where you can follow their rules. Meet the standard of conduct or GTFO.
This must be the "small government" I keep hearing about.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Don't expose your children to the government or one of its institutions.

It's slightly worse than exposing them to ricin or nuclear radiation.

Just a bit of advice.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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This must be the "small government" I keep hearing about.
We have a winner.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Don't expose your children to the government or one of its institutions.

It's slightly worse than exposing them to ricin or nuclear radiation.

Just a bit of advice.
No.... I'm pretty sure life expectancy and the standard of living has increased across the globe despite (or in spite as you would certainly have to argue) government.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:47 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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I think freedom is being able to sit, kneel, stand in line for a beer, have a bowel movement on the toilet, or/and just be indifferent during the pledge. I think learning about one's country is far more useful than reciting incantations.
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