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Old 10-10-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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Border Security is national Security. Libs want a pool of paid supporters so they the DNC can have one social program.
It is and has been about the DNC growing new voters period. Lib's do care about the rule of law or the impact that Illegal immigration has.
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Old 10-10-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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POTUS is a liar and is lying about this. Just to deflect from his Russia problems, which the moron tweeted about today. What a joke
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:54 PM
 
Location: USA
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Just curious what you mean by “relatively short-lived problem”? Relative to what? It’s been a growing problem during my entire lifetime, so what makes it “short-lived”?
By the lifetime of this country it's a short-term problem. Illegal immigration only became a large problem in the 80s and 90s. So it's been ~35 years. The border wall will take 10-20 years to complete. If the economy of the USA worsens or the economy of Mexico improves within the next 20-50 years the wall will be completely obsolete, yet the government will still be making bond payments on it and paying for guards and maintenance. It'll be the one of the largest projects the federal government has ever undertaken while we have bridges crumbling and highways deteriorating. It's just a terrible idea.
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Old 10-10-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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Dems want open borders.

Glad Trump's too kind offer to Dems was rejected.

Let the last 5 months run out. Then throw some ICE on DACA.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:10 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Dems want open borders.

Glad Trump's too kind offer to Dems was rejected.

Let the last 5 months run out. Then throw some ICE on DACA.
I don't understand why you have to lie.

Unemployment is very low. Crime is still lower than subsequent decades. No one wants open borders, only people who have to be dishonest say such things.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Either unemployment isn't low or illegals aren't taking away jobs in any significant manner. Pick one.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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POTUS is a liar and is lying about this. Just to deflect from his Russia problems, which the moron tweeted about today. What a joke
What Russian problems?
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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By the lifetime of this country it's a short-term problem. Illegal immigration only became a large problem in the 80s and 90s. So it's been ~35 years. The border wall will take 10-20 years to complete. If the economy of the USA worsens or the economy of Mexico improves within the next 20-50 years the wall will be completely obsolete, yet the government will still be making bond payments on it and paying for guards and maintenance. It'll be the one of the largest projects the federal government has ever undertaken while we have bridges crumbling and highways deteriorating. It's just a terrible idea.
What about if the economy in the US gets better? That would be good, no? But then the illegal problem, if left unchecked, would get worse, not better. I don’t know about you, but no matter how good our economy is, I am always hoping it gets better.

But imagine how much we would save if we got rid of illegals. The cost of a wall would be nothing by comparison. No more unpaid emergency room visits. No more educating their children at $15,000 per child , every year. We could even use the extra money to pay for those crumbling bridges and deteriorating highways you were talking about.
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Old 10-10-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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I don't understand why you have to lie.

Unemployment is very low. Crime is still lower than subsequent decades. No one wants open borders, only people who have to be dishonest say such things.
If Pelosi and Schumer wanted border control, they would have submitted a formal counter proposal with their ideas to REDUCE illegal alien crossings. They did not as they love illegal aliens.
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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with the trillion that obama gave his friends that nobody can locate , it would of paid for the wall three times, so why worry about the money, we just print more, its the democratic way
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