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In the sense of a culture. In the 19th century the word "race" and the word "culture" were synonomous.
No. In the 19th century race was determined by the law, and it decided what rights a person had. Spanish People were white then. When it was a legal privilege to be white, they were white.
A bizarre kind of social engineering that happened in the 70s fabricated the ridiculous concept that people of Spanish origin are a non-white minority group.
A Trumpling is what we refer to as someone who has a blind devotion to the orange Cheeto that is currently inhabiting the White House and calling himself "President". Their worship of the man is boundless and comes at the expense of all else, even the lives of their fellow Americans whatever the cost. YOU are a fine example of a "Trumpling".
Facts aren't hateful but the lies being spewed by you Trumplings here in this thread have very little to do with any facts.
Calling it worship or a blind devotion is ridiculous! If Trump does something I disagree with then I'll be the first to point it out. Trump voters are no different than the Obama voters. They had the same opinions and feelings about him. Calling our president an orange Cheeto is juvenile. Just as juvenile as calling Obama's looks by derogatory names was back then. Grow up!
Just what lies are being spewed in here by conservatives? You lefties just can't handle the truth and facts so you demonize anyone who doesn't share you opinions and go on the personal attack. It's just plain childish!
You seriously doubt he was Italian? He was born in Genoa, Italy. So.... he's Italian.
Italy didn't exist as a nation until the 1860s. Columbus didn't speak Italian. Genoa was it's own country with it's own government and language. So the closest to being Italian Columbus could possibly be is coming from the Italian peninsula. There was no Italy as a country.
Italy didn't exist as a nation until the 1860s. Columbus didn't speak Italian. Genoa was it's own country with it's own government and language. So the closest to being Italian Columbus could possibly be is coming from the Italian peninsula. There was no Italy as a country.
Much changed after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire. That's when my people left Germany, which wasn't Germany at the time but Wurzburg or something like that...not sure. Those damn Lutherans were after them for supporting the Empire for hundreds of years LOL. And how we live with their revenge in Minnesota by endless potluck suppers and hotdishes LOL.
No. In the 19th century race was determined by the law, and it decided what rights a person had. Spanish People were white then. When it was a legal privilege to be white, they were white.
A bizarre kind of social engineering that happened in the 70s fabricated the ridiculous concept that people of Spanish origin are a non-white minority group.
Spaniards were white in the 15th century, the 19th century and are still white today. They lumped Spaniards into being Hispanic probably because it took away the appearance of Hispanics being a people of mixed race which Spaniards aren't. You lump them all together and no one can claim you're a racist since it includes some white people as well.
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Hispanics isnt a race, even tho most Americans like to this so. Some are black descended from West African slaves, some are white descended from colonists/settlers mostly from Spain, and some are Native American/indigenous. But most Hispanics (both in the US & most of Latin America) are mixed race. Thats all. Spanish speaking multiracials.
In Mexico & northern Central America (Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras), its mostly just Natives & Mestizos (mixed white/native).
In southern Central America and northern South America (Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela), its more of a mixed bag. Natives, Whites Blacks, and Mixed (either 2 out of 3 or a triracial)
In central South America (Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Paraguay), its more Native than anything.
In southern South America (Chile, Argentina, Uraguay), its mostly Whites and Mestizos.
In the Spanish Caribbean (Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico), it has Blacks, whites, mulattos (mixed black/white), and triracials (mixed black/white/native). But mulattos and triracials dominate all 3, despite many mixed race ppl falsely identifying as white specifically in Cuba & PR.
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No. This is the woman who actually chose the word "hispanic" for their contrived ethnic group. She brags about it today;
Mexican activist groups fabricated the "hispanic" concept. It's a product of the Chicano movement of the 1970s.
The purpose of the term was to artificially make them into minorities so that they could qualify for the federal funding and minority benefits they wanted. Before the "hispanic" category existed, they were just part of the general white population, and they couldn't demand federal funding as white.
Affirmative action is the sole reason we call people "hispanic" today.
Puerto Ricans will probably "die out" as an ethnic group in 2 to 3 generations between very low birthrates and, more and more marrying out to either anglo white or Black Americans with the kids ID'ing with the 2nd group.
Not necessarily. Puerto Ricans dont have a low birth rate, its just not as high as Mexicans, its pretty average.
Secondly, yes Puerto Ricans have high rates of marrying out and or procreating with other race/ethnic groups, higher than most, especially with Dominican Americans, American blacks, Itailian Americans, Irish Americans, Mexican Americans, Cuban Americans, Jamaican Americans, & Haitian Americans. But these offspring tend to have high amounts of Puerto Rican pride, especially when one of the parents are plain ol American black or American white. But when one parent is Rican and the other is Dominican, Jamaican, Italian, or Mexican, the pride is less pronounced becuz both parents are "foreign" or "cultured".
No. In the 19th century race was determined by the law, and it decided what rights a person had. Spanish People were white then. When it was a legal privilege to be white, they were white.
A bizarre kind of social engineering that happened in the 70s fabricated the ridiculous concept that people of Spanish origin are a non-white minority group.
You are correct if you're talking about US law.
There was a Supreme Court decision in which white was specifically defined as meaning Europeans and their descendants in North and South America and the Antipodes.
I wasn't referring so much to US laws as to terms like "the Spanish race", "the English race", "the French race", "the German race", "the Italian race", etc. which were common in the 19th century. Even though all of those which I named were white Europeans.
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