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Old 10-17-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Pinterest is full of pic's of American poverty and strangely enough none of them show fat people.

I was careful to mention those states where the predominant problem can be shown to be anything but a matter of choice.

You can do your own research as it is your assertion we're discussing but you won't and that would again prove my assumption you're not interested in the facts.

Carry on.
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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What do we do about Health Care for the poor?

You don't appear to understand what Medicaid is. (hint) Free healthcare for the poor.

Medicaid in the United States is a social health care program for families and individuals with limited resources. The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care".Medicaid is the largest source of funding for medical and health-related services for people with low income in the United States, providing free health insurance to 74 million low-income and disabled people (as of 2017).

Medicaid has been LAW since 1965 - although it is a voluntary program by States. Arizona was the last State to vote to participate in Medicaid.

Now take a deep breath and try not to remain Hysterical ..... I don't recall anyone "dying in the streets" ... except for the Leftist Urban centers like Chicago - now up to 549 Deaths in the streets in 2017.

Then why are so many individuals with limited resources uncovered?
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Like I said, get back to me when you can provide pics of these starving poor in the USA. I'll be waiting.
I didn't claim they look like the picture you posted, so kindly back off.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Those who should be taken care of are the ones who are too old to work, those who worked all their lives who are retired now but had paid taxes during their careers, and those who cannot work for physical/mental disorders. One qualification should be those who were born in America.

Able bodied people should get a job if they want to have healthcare. Those who just arrive into the US shouldn't be on the top of the list to get government assistance.

There are American born residents in America who have worked all their lives and paid taxes but are kicked to the curb when it comes to government assistance. That is completely wrong and should be a law against that.



What would getting a job accomplish? Tens of millions of uninsured Americans have jobs. Or do you want an employer mandate that works? I have decades of work experience and have never had insurance through my employer. Where do you come up with this nonsense?
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Medicaid


What use is that to the millions of low-income uninsured?
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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Pinterest is full of pic's of American poverty and strangely enough none of them show fat people.
Well, then... you're being lied to...

Take a look at the obesity rates of the poor on food stamps compared to the poor who aren't on food stamps, and compared to the rest of the population:

Income-eligible children on food stamps: 24%
Income-eligible children NOT on food stamps: 20%
Non-poor children who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 13%

Kids who get Food Stamps (and free school meals, and who knows how many additional Nutrition Service benefits) have an 85% higher obesity rate than kids who don't qualify for those benefits.

Income-eligible adults on food stamps: 44% obese
Income-eligible adults NOT on food stamps: 33% obese
Non-poor adults who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 32% obese

Adults who get Food Stamps (and who knows how many additional Nutrition Service benefits) have a 38% higher obesity rate than adults who don't qualify for those benefits.

Do the math, and recognize that this is a SIGNIFICANT problem.

Exhibit 5, here:
http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defaul...-SNAP07-10.pdf

It certainly does appear that the children of poor and low-income families who receive free school breakfast, lunch, etc., program meals, regardless of whether they get food stamps, are being overfed.

Additionally, the USDA OIG (Office of the Inspector General) has found that a full 59% of families on Food Stamps also double-dip and triple-dip, or more, free food benefits from major Federal means-tested free food programs for the exact same daily meals:

Overlap and Duplication in Food and Nutrition Service's Nutrition Programs - USDA OIG
http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27001-0001-10.pdf

Let that sink in... A full 59% of families on Food Stamps also double-dip and triple-dip, or more, free food benefits from major Federal means-tested free food programs for the exact same daily meals.

Are we really doing the poor any favors by causing their obesity by letting them double-dip and sometimes even triple-dip or more government free food program benefits, thereby enabling their overeating and ruining their health? They are disproportionately obese, and cost us a lot more tax money to pay for their obesity-related health problems, such as heart disease and diabetes.

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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The idea that people just give up and die if they don't have insurance isn't true. It makes it a longer harder tougher road, but knowing other people that have survived cancer as I have, those with and those without insurance, rather than die, they just become poor. Insurance is there to save people wallets more than their life. There is darn good reason to have it, but I don't know one among them that just decided it was time to die. It was life altering financially, but if there was a way to survive they found it. Why don't we look realistically at what health insurance is? If you don't want to be poor, don't want to drain your families financial resources, want to have a good retirement, then find a way to get it.


In a zero-sum system, not everyone can win. Every income property is someone else's outgo property; slumlords secure their retirement wealth from rent serfs unable to retain their own wealth.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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Pinterest is full of pic's of American poverty and strangely enough none of them show fat people.

I was careful to mention those states where the predominant problem can be shown to be anything but a matter of choice.

You can do your own research as it is your assertion we're discussing but you won't and that would again prove my assumption you're not interested in the facts.

Carry on.
#1 purchase with food stamps is SODA. FACT!

As asked for before, please provide images of these starving poor in America. You shouldn't have any trouble since "Pinterest is full of them"

Meanwhile you bleeding heard libs are insulting the real poor people in this world. You know the ones who watch their children die in their arms because there isn't ANY food. They've probably never even tasted soda.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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In a zero-sum system, not everyone can win. Every income property is someone else's outgo property; slumlords secure their retirement wealth from rent serfs unable to retain their own wealth.
I'm not convinced that's anyone's fault but those who are unable/incapable of retaining their own wealth. Every homeowner I know started out as a renter years ago, including myself.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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I didn't claim they look like the picture you posted, so kindly back off.
Then you agree with me they are not poor by world standards. And they themselves, could send $1-2 a day to feed the truly poor and starving in this world, but instead they spend it on beer, cigarettes, drugs and soda. All the while, crying NO FAIR, the rich have to give us more. Hypocrites!
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