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Old 10-24-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No degree is unmarketable, as far as I can tell (and again this is something I fully put on the individual).
A lot of coffee shop baristas would disagree. And don't you remember the article about the adjunct college professor with a PhD in something utterly ridiculous on food stamps?

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/in-p...stance-n336596
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Having your wage cut by the illegals is your own fault if you vote for the Democraps.
I agree, but they'll still stupidly do so anyway. /SMH
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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No degree is unmarketable, as far as I can tell (and again this is something I fully put on the individual). But I'd argue that being stuck in a profession where your wages are undercut by anything - automation, immigrants, or changing market demands - is also fully in your control. Why can't they pivot their careers? Plenty of people do it. Not to say I'm not sympathetic to anyone's plight - I am - but it doesn't seem to me to be any different. If anything, if one poster's life was torpedoed by medical bills... that is one thing that I feel truly is not in one's control.
Get into STEM.

As long as you aren't Asian, you will never be unemployed. White, black, and Latino engineers are always picked first.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Why would you go into debt to get degrees that aren't very marketable? The vast majority of lawyers really don't make all that much money. They're relegated to doing real estate closings, plain vanilla wills, etc., chasing ambulances, etc. It's really tough to make it in that field.
Median salary for lawyers is about $115,000. Average over $125,000. The 25th percentile is at about $75,000. So 75% earn more than that. Unemployment is very low. And you think this degree is not marketable?

Sounds pretty good to me.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Get into STEM.

As long as you aren't Asian, you will never be unemployed. White, black, and Latino engineers are always picked first.
Female engineers are in very high demand, as well. They're still quite a minority in the field.

Purdue, for example. 8,900 engineering undergrads. 25% female.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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Choosing to earn an unmarketable degree AND going into debt to do so actually IS one's own fault. Having your wages undercut by illegal aliens in a profession you've been in for 45 years is not.
Illegal aliens were not the problem with construction work in the SW. The problem was non-union shops run by white contractors who undercut the union work force using Hispanic trades men. The workforce in the SW including CA, AZ and NV is virtually all Hispanic. There are illegals of course but a small percentage.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Illegal aliens were not the problem with construction work in the SW. The problem was non-union shops run by white contractors who undercut the union work force using Hispanic trades men.
Illegal aliens can't work in the US, so there are two reasons that could have happened:

1) Illegal aliens using stolen/forged IDs and SS#s to get jobs.

2) Overly generous public assistance benefits encouraging and enabling higher birth rates among the poor, and those with lower education and skill levels.

Regarding the 2nd item, the US Census Bureau has consistently found that women on public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate that's 3 times higher than women who don't get public assistance. So basically, what that has done is flood the low-skill/low-wage labor market with too many competitors for jobs. That depresses wages.

Look at Arizona, California, Nevada, and New Mexico. Who's on Medicaid?

Arizona: 41% Hispanic
California: 56% Hispanic
Nevada: 35% Hispanic
New Mexico: 55% Hispanic
(Source: Kaiser Family Foundation)

We're actually PAYING people to breed us into a lower standard of living for most.

But... That's what the US left INSISTS it wants. /shrug
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:33 PM
 
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A lot of coffee shop baristas would disagree. And don't you remember the article about the adjunct college professor with a PhD in something utterly ridiculous on food stamps?

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/in-p...stance-n336596
That’s silly. A degree, any degree, is a tool and it’s up to the individual how it’s used. People who work hard and want to make money will no matter what. Not to mention we live in a world where designers can make more money than lawyers and you can make 7 figures from being good at reviewing makeup on YouTube.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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That’s silly. A degree, any degree, is a tool and it’s up to the individual how it’s used. People who work hard and want to make money will no matter what. Not to mention we live in a world where designers can make more money than lawyers and you can make 7 figures from being good at reviewing makeup on YouTube.
Then why is there even a need for HC for the poor? They can get to work and EARN enough to pay for it.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Illegal aliens can't work in the US, so there are two reasons that could have happened:

1) Illegal aliens using stolen/forged IDs and SS#s to get jobs.

2) Overly generous public assistance benefits encouraging and enabling higher birth rates among the poor, and those with lower education and skill levels.

Regarding the 2nd item, the US Census Bureau has consistently found that women on public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate that's 3 times higher than women who don't get public assistance. So basically, what that has done is flood the low-skill/low-wage labor market with too many competitors for jobs. That depresses wages.

Look at Arizona, California, Nevada, and New Mexico. Who's on Medicaid?

Arizona: 41% Hispanic
California: 56% Hispanic
Nevada: 35% Hispanic
New Mexico: 55% Hispanic
(Source: Kaiser Family Foundation)

We're actually PAYING people to breed us into a lower standard of living for most.

But... That's what the US left INSISTS it wants. /shrug
Nonsense. In CA and NV the vast majority of the construction workers are paid reasonably well and not on welfare. Fact of life.

All the Medicaid numbers prove is that the poor are minority. In facts Blacks have a higher representation than do Hispanics.
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