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Old 10-19-2017, 05:12 PM
 
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As it happens twice per day, the broken clock will be right on the money for those two minutes.

Biden: Liberals 'hurt ourselves badly' by opposing free speech

Former Vice President Joe Biden harshly condemned liberals who oppose free speech Tuesday, arguing that shutting down the First Amendment right is “simply wrong.”

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Speaking before a crowd at the University of Delaware, Biden underscored the importance of the First Amendment, arguing that freedom of speech is “one of the defining features of who we are.”

“The First Amendment means what it says. You are not allowed to stand up and yell ‘fire’ in this auditorium. But you are allowed to stand up and say ‘Biden, I think you are an absolute jerk,’” he explained.

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Biden also claimed that he has been criticized for his previous public statements in support of free speech, including his condemnation of riots at the University of California, Berkeley.

“If your idea is big enough, it should be able to compete,” Biden argued. “And you should be able to listen to another point of view, as virulent as it may be, and reject it, expose it.”


My sarcasm aside... Nice job by Biden here.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Conservatives: "WTF!, I love Joe Biden now".
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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Cool, does this mean you support people kneeling during the anthem and burning the flag?
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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My sarcasm aside... Nice job by Biden here.
My God, liberals love Bush and now conservatives love Joe Biden. Trump's screw ups sure do bring the country together.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Conservatives: "WTF!, I love Joe Biden now".
Funny, I read the OP much differently than you did.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Cool, does this mean you support people kneeling during the anthem and burning the flag?
I do. As long as it is on their own time. If it is on company time, their employers have a say in the matter.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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I do. As long as it is on their own time. If it is on company time, their employers have a say in the matter.
Should the government like the President dictate it?
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:23 PM
 
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Conservatives: "WTF!, I love Joe Biden now".
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Cool, does this mean you support people kneeling during the anthem and burning the flag?
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My God, liberals love Bush and now conservatives love Joe Biden. Trump's screw ups sure do bring the country together.
I'm not a cheerleader like 80% of the people here.

I don't care who gets it right.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:31 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Should the government like the President dictate it?
Absolutely not. He didn't dictate anything though. He gave his opinion.

From a legal standpoint, he didn’t do anything wrong. He was exercising his own free speech.

From a public relations standpoint, it was a stupid thing to say.
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Old 10-19-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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I don't agree with Uncle Joe very often but he did make some good points.

As for flag burning and the anthem stuff, I don't agree with what they're doing, but I would defend their right to do it. And along that same line, I would expect those people to respect my right to speak out against those actions.

This country has gotten to be too much of a "my way or the highway" kind of society. Nobody respects anything anymore and a different viewpoint can get you in serious trouble.
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