Nazi Germany can happen again. (Rush Limbaugh, FBI, Clinton, Obama)

[NY_refugee87]

Guess slats is in the ICU after that burn...

This is why it pays to take middle school level civics and government classes. Not follow your tie dye hair, ear gauged, nose pierced, antifa buddies around... global history helps too...

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick

So you support non citizens legally owning guns???

hahaha You were called and out and were proven wrong. Quit moving the goal posts.

[Slats Grobnick]

Originally Posted by SandraMoore66

Love how you demand an answer but refuse to answer any questions...

You didn't ask any queston

I asked you guys if you supported non citizens owning guns and you guys keep on deflecting.

By the way, Germany doesn't have a second amendment, so the point is moot when talking about Germany

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

hahaha You were called and out and were proven wrong. Quit moving the goal posts.

How can a question be proven wrong? I asked for your opinion on gun rights and you guys don't want to answer it.

So I'll ask for the 4th time, do you support non citizens owning guns including in Germany

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by NY_refugee87

In this country non citizens are allowed to own firearms.

My brother in law isn't a citizen. Legal resident. I addressed you with the law and the 4473 form info...

So are you supporting a government which selectively chooses who is to own a firearm or give the authority to revoke citizenship and declare a class of people of a certain race, political stance, sexual preference, gender, ethnic background, religious beliefs, as untermensch?

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Correct. The 2nd Amendment says 'people' not 'citizens.'

Originally Posted by NY_refugee87

Do you support a government which strips citizens of their rights?

Form 4473
Question 12a. Country of citizenship
[_] United States of America (USA) [_] Other Country/Countries (list if applicable)
12b. Have you ever renounced your United States Citizenship?
[_]Yes [_]No
12c. Are you an alien Illegally or Unlawfully in the United States?
[_]Yes [_]No
12d.1 Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant status? (see instructions for 12d)
[_]Yes [_]No.
12d.2 If "yes", do you fall within the exceptions stated in the instructions?
[_]Yes [_]No [_] N/A
13. If you are an alien, record your US Issued Alien or Admission Number
(AR/#, USCIS#, or 194#)

So yes Slats, non citizens have gun rights just as much as citizens.
Your point? Other than a lack of knowledge?

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

People.

Originally Posted by NY_refugee87

LOL anyone avoiding questions is you...

It's law that both citizens and legal residents may own firearms and we support their right to do so.

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

I support the US Constitution. What about you, Slats? Do you?

Originally Posted by SandraMoore66

Love how you demand an answer but refuse to answer any questions...

Originally Posted by BentBow

Yes! I support what the Constitution the people created, told the government. The people, not the citizens. People and citizen are 2 different things, although a citizen is a person, but not all people are citizens. Even immigrants and illegal immigrants and border jumpers, have always had the right to self protection.

Originally Posted by BentBow

Under our 2nd amendment, there is no such thing as an illegal gun, or owning/possessing one illegally.
Government cannot infringe on that.

Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick

I asked you guys if you supported non citizens owning guns and you guys keep on deflecting.

Are you blind too?

[Slats Grobnick]

Originally Posted by BentBow

Are you blind too?

We are talking about Germany, which doesn't have the 2nd amendment

2nd amendment does not apply

Do you support gun rights for non citizens?

[serger]

Originally Posted by BentBow

The evidence proves otherwise.

Just because you say it, does not make it true.
The documentation is extensive.

Umm, ok. Oh, wait, you actually don't have any evidence.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism


Look at references 50 and 51. Report back.

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick

We are talking about Germany, which doesn't have the 2nd amendment

2nd amendment does not apply

Do you support gun rights for non citizens?

You actually are blind! I answered that and then put it back as a requote in what you replied to.

[Slats Grobnick]

Originally Posted by BentBow

You are blind!

At least I'm not dishonest and don't skirt issues

Doubt you'll answer my question if non citizens should be allowed to carry guns in this situation (FYI, Germany never had a 2nd)

[serger]

Originally Posted by BentBow

Yes! I support what the Constitution the people created, told the government. The people, not the citizens. People and citizen are 2 different things, although a citizen is a person, but not all people are citizens. Even immigrants and illegal immigrants and border jumpers, have always had the right to self protection.

Yeah, about that:


Appeals Court Ruling Could Threaten the Second Amendment Rights of American Citizens | The Heritage Foundation


Disclaimer: I don't know if there were other rulings afterwards.

[shanv3]

Originally Posted by Fiyero

So many are ignoring the warning signs of history and pretending something like Nazi Germany could never happen again, especially in the US.

It can.

Not here. May in Austria. They eected a 30 something to the Chancellor post. Hopefully he is not from Braunau on the Inn.