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Old 10-28-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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Seriously? Premiums have been skyrocketing without trumps EOs. He is trying to rein in in the out of control costs despite Obama’s lie about how premiums will decrease.
Trump's Executive Order has skyrocketed ACA premiums for 2018. PA was going to increase premiums 7.6% but Trump's EU caused the rates to increase 30.6%. These huge rate increases are due to Trump's EU and the rate increases impact self-pay people much more than they impact people that are subsidized.

Florida insurers raised their rates drastically due to Trump also per the below.

Pa. approves steep 2018 ACA exchange percentage increases, hopes to minimize impact

President Trump’s decision to end payments to insurers that help make health coverage affordable for millions of lower-income Americans under the Affordable Care Act blew up what would have been a year of relatively low rate increases in Pennsylvania.

... approved rate increases of 30.6 percent ...Earlier projections showed that rates would increase 7.6 percent

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Florida

Florida regulators said most of the average rate hike — 31 percentage points — came from standard plans sold on the ACA exchange at healthcare.gov. Insurers raised rates for those plans due to the political uncertainty that has plagued the healthcare debate, specifically whether the Trump administration will stop paying subsidies that lower out-of-pocket costs for low-income Americans.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I recall Hillary Clinton saying on the campaign trail, "We're going to be taking some things away from you." I also remember her saying, "We're going to put coal miners out of business."

It's also no secret that she wanted to take guns away from us.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Trump's Executive Order has skyrocketed ACA premiums for 2018. PA was going to increase premiums 7.6% but Trump's EU caused the rates to increase 30.6%. These huge rate increases are due to Trump's EU and the rate increases impact self-pay people much more than they impact people that are subsidized.

Sorry but I don't buy that. My policy under Obama went up 150% in 4 years. From what I heard it was scheduled to go up another 25% and that EO added another 5% to the 25%.

Democrats / Obama passed a very bad tax law and it's killing us middle class. Even before this next increase I can no longer afford insurance.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This is all being done through Congress though, which is legal. Congress creates the tax code, not Trump.
So, Trump will veto it?
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: London
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No sorry, Obama's apology tour gave that away years ago. Obama was a child trying to play with men.
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Can’t take away what was given away by Obama.
Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers | Pew Research Center

Think what you like though.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Trump took away people's free time. Those unemployed people now have jobs and have to go to work. Unemployment at a record low of many years.
He also took away some of my febt. Stock mkt at record high.
He took away record numbers of illegal immigrants crossing the border. Illegal immigration down over 60 percent.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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He took away consumers right to sue banks.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Doing the right thing does not make one popular.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The Golden State, USA
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Doubt it, remember the world bowing tour?
No, but I do remember trump praising Vladimir Putin calling him a great leader while knocking NATO.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: NJ
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He's trying to take away freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the right to sue companies collectively for starters, there are many many more examples
Candidate obama's campaign threatened lawsuits against anyone who lied about him


then whitehouse.gov asked people to turn in names of people who opposed obamacare


then the media and legislators charged racism to anyone opposed to obama's policies


obama' weaponized the IRS and other federal agencies to supress the conservative vote


obama had the most corrupt doj in history...holder falsified a warrant to spy on journalists. the next head of the doj was even worse , protecting criminal behavior of hillary clinton and even compromised herself by meeting with Bill and lying about it, taking away the trust in the justice system


obama lied about freedom to choose your own doctor
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