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Old 10-31-2017, 05:47 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
Good thing its Halloween. Someone with this abnormality can dress up as one of a kind.

Or at least a member of the minority.

 
Old 10-31-2017, 05:52 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Another troll thread? We get it: You love bragging about the Trump win. You despise Obama and those you perceive as politically correct. YAWN.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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The Democrats don't need a great candidate to beat Trump.

They ran an extremely poor candidate that won a rigged primary. Hillary was an awful candidate that ran a horrible campaign that forgot about the rust belt and rarely hit on economic issues. Now that Trump is in office he is even less popular - an average candidate should be able to beat Trump.
3 years is an eternity in politics, so Trump supporters should not count the chickens before they are hatched.

But for 78,000 votes over 4 states Clinton would have won. After 10 months of Trump a good amount of swing voters and anti-Trump GOP would most likely swing to a "normal" candidate, one not named Clinton or Bush.

Muller and team is pretty smart. Working with the NY State AG in parallel as an additional venue so that Trump can't pardon his pals is just one example of how he is going logically and methodically out maneuver anything Trump can come up with.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Thank God Trump is president
Are you trying to tell us that God is Russian.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
The Democrats don't need a great candidate to beat Trump.

They ran an extremely poor candidate that won a rigged primary. Hillary was an awful candidate that ran a horrible campaign that forgot about the rust belt and rarely hit on economic issues. Now that Trump is in office he is even less popular - an average candidate should be able to beat Trump.
I, too, have to agree with a lot of that statement. As much as I like and respect Hillary , for her years of hard work and for being a strong woman, she simply did not have that WOW factor to reach a lot of people. That, and she was up against a different kind of opponent, a showman, a con man, who read the temperature of a lot of Americans very well, and he came across as a strong, assertive candidate, while she looked somewhat limp and ineffectual.

The baggage she carried, whether real or created by the Russians and others, was also very damaging. People I talked to said they simply "did not trust her". As much as the Right tries to minimize the impact of the games Russia played to get Trump in there, it did have some effect........how much, we don't know, but it certainly did not help Hillary.

A final factor is, she is a woman. Even a lot of women voters are not ready for a female to lead the country. That is a sad fact, but a fact, nonetheless.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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are you trying to tell us that god is russian.

^^^^ I like the way you think !
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Sorry dems, you have no talent pool in 2020 to beat the best president of my lifetime
You must be very young.

President Trump does nothing but fight with every one, even leaders in his own party and Morning Joe. He also watches more television than any President since Roosevelt. Television is chewing gum for the mind. He is obsessed with using twitter to the point where every thought gets blurted out to his disciples. Even the ones that should have been given more thought. He should be spending time familiarizing himself with the issues. He's not, because his staff will handle that. But he is busy firing most of them.

So, we are ten months into a Trump Presidency. Have the jobs even started coming back from China? I know. Give him time. But isn't he the one who said that it was going to be incredible? Amazing? Spectacular? Unbelievable?

What do we have to look forward to in a Trump presidency? A tax plan which will lower the corporate tax to 20%? At what expense? mortgage deductions? 401K deductions?

You may be right about the Democrats having no visible talent, but to say that Trump is the best President of your life time, you really must be down wind of one of those states that legalized pot.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Another troll thread? We get it: You love bragging about the Trump win. You despise Obama and those you perceive as politically correct. YAWN.
You don't get it, it's not just about beating us; it's also about demoralizing us to the point where they hope we either convert to their side or just don't vote....
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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I, too, have to agree with a lot of that statement. As much as I like and respect Hillary , for her years of hard work and for being a strong woman, she simply did not have that WOW factor to reach a lot of people. That, and she was up against a different kind of opponent, a showman, a con man, who read the temperature of a lot of Americans very well, and he came across as a strong, assertive candidate, while she looked somewhat limp and ineffectual.

The baggage she carried, whether real or created by the Russians and others, was also very damaging. People I talked to said they simply "did not trust her". As much as the Right tries to minimize the impact of the games Russia played to get Trump in there, it did have some effect........how much, we don't know, but it certainly did not help Hillary.

A final factor is, she is a woman. Even a lot of women voters are not ready for a female to lead the country. That is a sad fact, but a fact, nonetheless.
Apart from that, anti incumbency factor. Her best chance was in 2008.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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Interesting because being PC -- is being offended because someone wishes you well by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

Seems to me the OP is confuses being simple,crude,unaware, etc. with being PC.
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