Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 23 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,556 posts, read 16,542,682 times
Reputation: 6041
Advertisements
Quote:
Originally Posted by lisanicole1
Yes but did his agreement give him complete control of DNC finances and DNC staffing?
As I said, I agree the staffing part was wrong.
I going to have to disagree on the money because again, its money she raised. if Bernie had told the DNC he would use his fund, maybe he would have gotten the same financial deal.
Bernie and his supporters attacked the DNC early. He may have very well caused the problem that lead to the DNC needing Clinton's cash in the first place.
I suggest anyone who wants to know about this book watch Fox News and listen to Rush and Hannity because you know they will cover this story more thoroughly than lamestream media.
Interim Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair Donna Brazile placed blame for the party’s financial woes squarely on former President Barack Obama and Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a Thursday column, excoriating the pair for handing over complete control of the party to the Clinton campaign almost a year before she secured the nomination.
Puh-lease. I have no interest listening to Rush etc. and trying to figure out which parts they're being honest about, which parts they're leaving out altogether and which parts they're twisting slightly.
I have the same problem listening to left-leaning media as well.
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 23 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,556 posts, read 16,542,682 times
Reputation: 6041
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy
He caucuses with the dems, he ran as a dem but I agree that had there been other options than our 2 party system he may have ran differently. That being said, he doesn't fit nicely in either parties "box" but he fit well enough into the dems box to mount a challenge to Hillary despite her having the whole DNC as well as the media ganging up on him.
No. 70% of the people who voted for Sanders identified as independent or Republican.
There are 700 superdelegates, and 4000 regular delegates. No one can win the nomination with super delegates alone.
and to be clear, her margin of victory was more than 700. She could have lost every superdelegate and still won.
Super delegates are also not DNC members on a year to year basis, they only exist during the primary and they are mostly elected Democrats from across the nation.
Incorrect. Neither candidate won it outright. Super Delegates picked the nominee.
Delegates needed to win nomination - 2382
Hillary delegates - 2205 (Clinton won almost all the DNC secret controlled caucus votes and pledged delegates)
Bernie delegates - 1846
Super delegates - 716
So it was the Super Delegates who decided it. Clinton was not able to win it by the vote. That was very damning news for the Democrats which they should have heeded instead of just handing the nomination to Hillary.
"I did not trust the polls, I said. I told him I had visited states around the country and I found a lack of enthusiasm for her everywhere. I was concerned about the Obama coalition and about millennials."
"The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical. If the fight had been fair, one campaign would not have control of the party before the voters had decided which one they wanted to lead. This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity."
That last one pretty much describes the Clintons' entire career in politics, doesn't it?
I going to have to disagree on the money because again, its money she raised. if Bernie had told the DNC he would use his fund, maybe he would have gotten the same financial deal.
Bernie and his supporters attacked the DNC early. He may have very well caused the problem that lead to the DNC needing Clinton's cash in the first place.
She had control of state party funds. That is not her money. Well it should not have been anyway.
'Money in the battleground states usually stayed in that state, but all the other states funneled that money directly to the DNC, which quickly transferred the money to Brooklyn"
How old would you need to be to remember that? 6 years old?
Not a Trump supporter but I remember when Brazille was beloved by the left when she was cheating and lying for them but now she is hated for apparently telling the truth. Perhaps this was the way of washing the Hillary Clinton stench off of her.
I think he has been a independent / socialist for a long time. Only was a dem for the 2016 election.
Yep.
He joined the party in good faith.
DNC accepted him as a candidate, gleeful at the crowds he had at rallies.
Bernie got rooked by the Democrats, including Brazille.
So he didn't like what he saw and resigned.
Bernie is smart enough to know that it wasn't good for him to stay in. Never good to be part of a dog fight.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
