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Old 11-14-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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What do you think that money would be used for?
So, giving them money will make them care about education?
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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And? What is your point?
kind of a fake question because the post of mine that you quoted needed no explanation if you read the post I was responding to
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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So, giving them money will make them care about education?
It might. Better teachers, access to technology, smaller class sizes have all been shown to stimulate interest in learning.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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I’m still trying to figure that out. As has been pointed out by myself, and several other people from N.J., our state spends more in the poor school districts than we do in the wealthy school districts. And we have since the Abbott v. Burke decision over 30 years ago.

Those poor districts, with a seemingly unlimited amount of money, spending over $30k per student per year, are still the worst performing school districts in the state.

So what would the money be used for? That is a great question.
So instead of pampering people with free education, make them private. This free stuff only creates a voting class which can decide who rules them.

Take the largest democracies - India and USA. There poor and backward Hindi speaking states often decide who wins the Central government. Here in US also the swing states are mostly in the South or Midwest.

Mostly liberal metros do all the work but do not have much say in deciding the winner.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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This video sums up why everyone needs good schools in this country:

https://youtu.be/t-Ydoh_5EjU
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Why should they have it all? Most rich off a poor man’s back

In my opinion, the word "rich" needs a better definition. Nowadays, rich just means solid middle class in the 70s or 80s.

The reason that some private schools provide the best education is because certain schools like Exeter and Andover have massive endowments relative to their size and are incomparable to 99% of public schools in the United States. Wealthy parents are also able to donate and pay the tuition for these schools to continue to provide this level of education.

Aside from the academics, the people you are surrounded by are well connected and if the high school is prestigious it will help you get into the best colleges.

All these said, there are some "rich" families still choose to send their children to the local public school because the funding provided comes from income and property taxes, the wealthier districts are able to collect more for funding. This often results in low-income families with the highest needs receiving the least resources available, the least-qualified teachers, and substandard learning facilities.

Yes, they do pay more taxes, and they should have a better school district.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:18 AM
 
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I’m still trying to figure that out. As has been pointed out by myself, and several other people from N.J., our state spends more in the poor school districts than we do in the wealthy school districts. And we have, since the Abbott v. Burke decision over 30 years ago.

Those poor districts, with a seemingly unlimited amount of money, spending over $30k per student per year, are still the worst performing school districts in the state.

So what would the money be used for? That is a great question.
Well....

There are a lot of programs out there designed to foster better relationships between child and parent, family and community, parent and teacher etc. But they cost money to implement.

Extra support personnel could be hired.

Extra programming could be implemented such as before and after school tutoring, intramural activities, field trips, speaker series, etc.

Supplies could be purchased for low-income children.

That's just off the top of my head.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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It might. Better teachers, access to technology, smaller class sizes have all been shown to stimulate interest in learning.
More good points about how increased funding would help low achieving schools.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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It might. Better teachers, access to technology, smaller class sizes have all been shown to stimulate interest in learning.
Sorry, I just don't buy it. Interest in learning comes stems from motivation at home. If the parents aren't interested in teaching their kids to respect authority, why on earth would you think giving them stuff at school would do anything?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Sorry, I just don't buy it. Interest in learning comes stems from motivation at home. If the parents aren't interested in teaching their kids to respect authority, why on earth would you think giving them stuff at school would do anything?
I trust years of academic research, reports from the field and empirical data vs. the opinions of people who've already made their stance on the poor and education quite clear.
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