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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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Victory! We have victory!!
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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I'm shocked they actually did it, especially keeping the corp rate at 20%. So proud of our Senators, this is what they were elected for. Now let's get more of them in 2018
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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Default Deficit Reduction

Why are Republicans incapable of creating a bill that actually reduces the deficit?
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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Why are Republicans incapable of creating a bill that actually reduces the deficit?
Are you talking about the $8T deficit created by the tax and spend Obama?
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Under the Senate bill, my tax will be approximately $2,319 less than last year

Under the House bill, my tax will be approximately $2,033 less than last year
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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Why are Republicans incapable of creating a bill that actually reduces the deficit?
When have Democrats or Republicans ever passed bills to reduce spending?

SPENDING creates debt. You should learn this.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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"but then again screwing people in CA is a valuable aide benefit to conservatives in this whole thing."

"and claim state tax deduction"

Funny, the REASON you have high property taxes is because of DEMOCRATS but, go ahead and try to blame conservatives.

Instead of whining about conservatives why DON'T YOU do something about your high property taxes?

YOUR LOCAL TAXES is NOT the responsibility of the FEDERAL government. Sorry!

The rest of the people in the country should NOT have to make up the difference in your LOCAL taxes.
Focusing on one aspect of the bill is a red herring.

First, the bill gives tax breaks to golf course owners specifically. Know anybody famous who has a golf course?

Second, if one is a grad student receiving $50,000 in tuition assistance is now considered income, subject to tax -- but the student doesn't have the actual money because it's paid to the school.

Third, most state and local taxes go to education, Medicaid and running the operations of a state, like police. High tax states value these services and provide them. How, you are saying we should cut them to match states that don't share our value in education or care to the agid.

I have a shocking alternative: Why not get rid of the provision eliminating the estate tax, the carried interest provision that only benefits hedge fund managers and the golf course loophole?

It should be obvious that the Senate and House run by the Republicans only care about catering to the rich and powerful. Joe Biden said, “Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.” We can see in black and white that Republicans value hedge fund managers, golf Course owners, and people with estates over middle class taxpayers that pay mortgage interest and state and local taxes, amount many other atrocious provisions.

Joe Biden once said, “Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value.” We clearly see that the Republicans favor the rich over the middle class voters that elected them.

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Old 12-02-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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Why are Republicans incapable of creating a bill that actually reduces the deficit?
They cried about the debt SO HARD when Obama was spending, I was just sure they were gonna rectify things.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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No they just continue to sexually harass their interns and co workers.
Unlike the GOP who continue to sexually harass underage children all over America.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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No they just continue to sexually harass their interns and co workers.
Roy Moore. Another fail in your argument.
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