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View Poll Results: Did anyone really NOT expect Republicans to try to stop the Russia Investigation?
Of course I expected them to interfere! 51 75.00%
No,I expected them to allow the invetigation to be completed. 17 25.00%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-17-2017, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Slow walking the investigation allows speculation to dominate the political scene and slow Trump's efforts.


How sad would dems be if no collusion were found. They need to keep speculation alive for the next series of elections.
I would think the Trump camp would want the investigation to continue in hopes that they dig up all the dirt on the FBI and Hillary and find Trump innocent of all wrongdoing.

 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
there's a huge gap between a "goofy Trump reaction" and trump's legal team accusing the mueller investigation of illegal activity.
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Originally Posted by Valhallian View Post
Not sure how much you’ve been following this in the news. The issue here isn’t what was uncovered in the emails, it’s that Trump’s team is now trying to attack Mueller for allegedly obtaining the emails illegally. While we can’t say right now with absolute certainty, it was almost assuredly legal.
So, the Trump legal team went rogue with his input?
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Xpat View Post
Any American who thinks there's even a 1% chance Trump conspired with our foes should want that 1% possibility 100% investigated. The only reason to want the Mueller probe ended entirely is because you want Donald Trump to reign over America as a king rather than a president.


When you could not override the States, to keep him out of the Presidency, you are going to use the power of the Federal Governments unconstitutional unlimited power within the deep state, to remove him from the Presidency.


I got that.

What are the consequences if you succeed?
Have thought that far past the tip of your nose?
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
We may be gettting ready for an instant replay of Nixon and Watergate. The question is, why would Trump fire Mueller if he's innocent and this investigation is his best chance of being exonerated by the evidence? Firing Mueller would seem to be the stupidest thing he could possibly do, since it would look like he's trying to cover something up.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cou...?.tsrc=fauxdal
If its stupid, then Trump will probably do it.
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
There is no comparison with Watergate in this corrupt investigation. This is far worse than Watergate, and it is the Democrats that should be worried. They are the ones in trouble here. Big trouble.

You must not be old enough to remember Watergate. You don't seem to know what it was about, if you are trying to compare this "investigation" to Watergate. In Watergate, they were actually investigating a crime. Here, there is no crime. They are looking for a crime to investigate.

The crimes committed here are all on the part of the Democrats who are doing the investigation into the Trump team, which has done nothing illegal, and that is a huge difference. But we have people on Mueller's team that were colluding with the Russians to create a fake "dossier" on Trump. They were secretly conspiring to derail his campaign, and if that didn't work, they (as we now know) were formulating how they would prevent him from getting elected. And if that fake "dossier" was used to obtain the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, it is even worse. Some of these people (Democrats) could be headed for prison.

NOPE, all you got here mate is NOISE, no facts, no nothing. Just you making noise because you don't like Mueller doing his job.

Your last paragraph is not only made up but lame, super lame. your post stinks of desperation and weakness. You should spend more time concocting your nonsense so that it is at least plausible....
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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So, the Trump legal team went rogue with his input?
there's no indication whether it's with or without trump's input.

it doesn't change the facts at hand.
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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So, the Trump legal team went rogue with his input?
I don’t know what you mean “went rogue”. I don’t think they’d make an argument if they didn’t think there was a legal basis for it, however tenuous it might be. But I think they probably know it’s a stretch and it’s part of their strategy to get their argument in the public sphere. If transition officials used a private email server I think their argument would be much stronger.

When you’re a lawyer you make all the legal arguments you can, even if there’s only a slim chance of success on one or more of them. In this case Trump’s legal team is also waging a battle in the press. If they can raise even a glimmer of impropriety in Mueller’s investigation, it’s worthwhile for them to do so, even if their isn’t much legal merit to the argument.
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
When you could not override the States, to keep him out of the Presidency, you are going to use the power of the Federal Governments unconstitutional unlimited power within the deep state, to remove him from the Presidency.


I got that.

What are the consequences if you succeed?
Have thought that far past the tip of your nose?
The consequences are obvisous Trump and his entire Admin will be replaced by Ryan and his admin. or maybe Pence... and guess what they are both better than Trump so we don't care. Hardluck Bentbow the establishment has won and they are booting your guy out....

all the rights talk of civil war etc is just hysteria from the snowflakes on the right. Nobody cares ,nobody is worried, at worst one arm of our services or another will have to arrest some right wing extremists and put them in prison for 40 years....

the consequences seem fine to everyone outside of Trump fading cult.
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Valhallian View Post
I don’t know what you mean “went rogue”. I don’t think they’d make an argument if they didn’t think there was a legal basis for it, however tenuous it might be. But I think they probably know it’s a stretch and it’s part of their strategy to get their argument in the public sphere. If transition officials used a private email server I think their argument would be much stronger.

When you’re a lawyer you make all the legal arguments you can, even if there’s only a slim chance of success on one or more of them. In this case Trump’s legal team is also waging a battle in the press. If they can raise even a glimmer of impropriety in Mueller’s investigation, it’s worthwhile for them to do so, even if their isn’t much legal merit to the argument.
Went rogue = did it outside the instructions of Trump
 
Old 12-17-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
So much for, "everything is sealed'!

"We can make NO comments on a ongoing investigation".

It has been noted that just about every time something is "leaked about trump, it is negative.

90% of ALL time spent talking about Trump by ABC, NBC and CBS, has been NEGATIVE.
Perhaps, just maybe, there's a simple explanation for why that is.
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