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Old 12-18-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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Yes I believe him. He's right. Baby Boomers are aging out of the workforce and there aren't enough people to replace them.

Who cares if they are paying a fair wage right? People are supposed to just be happy to have a job. At least that's what I've read here.
Are you serious? Go talk to American citizen STEM/IT workers who have lost their jobs to H1-B visa holders. Never mind the H1-Bs, Obama dictated that their spouses, H-4 visa workers could now work in this country.

Talk to those in the construction trades who have lost their livelihoods to illegal aliens.

Such an out of touch comment to say that there aren't enough people to replace baby boomers.
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:57 PM
 
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Ryan has that strange 'smirk' on his face all the time, so insincere ... kinda' like a kid in the candy shop scoffing the jelly beans when he thinks no one is looking. Yikes.
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: PSL
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1.) I DETEST Ryan, he makes Boehner look good! He's destroying us with his open borders policies and needs to resign from office and go leave the country and never come back!

2.) More babies isn't such a bad thing. We need 2.0 children per family to make it and we're at 1.92 right now.
Where the hell is the other .08?
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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Ryan is another Hypocrite. Glad he is leaving. He thinks he is a genius...
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Ryan has that strange 'smirk' on his face all the time, so insincere ... kinda' like a kid in the candy shop scoffing the jelly beans when he thinks no one is looking. Yikes.
You know, I've never been less impressed with anyone than I am Paul Ryan this year. I bought into the whole 'he's a policy wonk' schtick.


My guess is he knows even less than Boehner.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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The GOP are not to blame for poor opportunities for many people who actually shouldn't be having kids. Why would you have kids you can't afford, anyway? Are you folks that bad at decision-making?
Exactly my point. Which is why Ryan's statement is hypocritical.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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I'd greatly upset Mr Ryan...

Mr Ryan as a conservative registered republican at 18... you can't be serious.
Diapers are expensive whether Huggies or Depends. Instead I pose a legitimate solution.

Make social security no longer a requirement but optional to pay into. This isn't the dust bowl great depression era. In today's day and age, if you can't turn a dime into a dollar... Can't borrow money from social security if it's not there to begin with.
(I'd be okay with not paying another cent and cash out now. With what I've paid into it so far I'd be able to expand my business and not ever have to worry about retiring)

Here's another idea. How about we pass some legislation that cuts entitlement programs like a congressmans salary. You serve us. Not the other way around.

How about you and your buddies on both sides of the aisle get paid on flat rate like a mechanic does. Stall congress, and voting on bills. No pay for you. You will get paid 3 hours to discuss a bill. 3 hours to argue. .5 to vote it into law. If the bill doesn't pass your side doesn't get paid. Same with dems. Stand to obstruct you don't get paid.

Sound good?
Great post! ITA
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Make social security no longer a requirement but optional to pay into. This isn't the dust bowl great depression era. In today's day and age, if you can't turn a dime into a dollar... Can't borrow money from social security if it's not there to begin with.
(I'd be okay with not paying another cent and cash out now. With what I've paid into it so far I'd be able to expand my business and not ever have to worry about retiring)
The money you pay into social security isn't for you to cash out.

The money you pay into social security is for the seniors of today to cash out.

You're basically accruing a YOM (you owe me), that future generations will have to pay on your behalf for you to collect.

And at least until the next few decades, people that have paying into SS, they will likely receive more than they paid. Not to say it couldn't yield more invested elsewhere, but it's the closest thing to a guarantee you'll find anywhere.
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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The money you pay into social security isn't for you to cash out.

The money you pay into social security is for the seniors of today to cash out.

You're basically accruing a YOM (you owe me), that future generations will have to pay on your behalf for you to collect.

And at least until the next few decades, people that have paying into SS, they will likely receive more than they paid. Not to say it couldn't yield more invested elsewhere, but it's the closest thing to a guarantee you'll find anywhere.
Will SS actually be there when we are of age to use it?
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Will SS actually be there when we are of age to use it?
What I read, that without any reforms we'll get about 75% of what we would have if we could collect before 2030. It won't just disappear, it'll just have to pay out less than what we're projected to get under the current model.
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