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Old 01-01-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My boyfriend is Haitian, and he's working today instead of celebrating. I asked him why, and he is like, Haiti is the worst country to live in that is located in western hemisphere, and he thinks most of his people are down right idiotic for celebrating a Haitian holiday while making a living on American soil. He will celebrate his culture, but he tells me he will never get behind celebrating Haiti's independence while living in another country because he feels it's just a huge joke.

What do you all think of the Haitians Americans who are celebrating today? If they really did feel so strongly about their country, wouldn't they still be living there?
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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I am an American expat and no one minds over here if I celebrate the 4th of July!

Tell your boyfriend we wish him a happy independence day!
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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I see nothing wrong about celebrating your native country while living in another country.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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My boyfriend is Haitian, and he's working today instead of celebrating. I asked him why, and he is like, Haiti is the worst country to live in that is located in western hemisphere, and he thinks most of his people are down right idiotic for celebrating a Haitian holiday while making a living on American soil. He will celebrate his culture, but he tells me he will never get behind celebrating Haiti's independence while living in another country because he feels it's just a huge joke.

What do you all think of the Haitians Americans who are celebrating today? If they really did feel so strongly about their country, wouldn't they still be living there?
I say this about ALL immigrant groups that come here and march in the streets waving their flags.

If you were so proud of your country, you would live there. The same people waving foreign flags act as if it's a horrible punishment to send undocumented immigrants back to those countries.

If you are so proud to be Mexican, Haitian, Dominican, Salvadoran, etc. Why don't you want to live there?
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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It's their culture, I have no problem with them being proud of it, whatever their nationality.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They should beg the French to take them back. The only thing worthwhile there is Barbancourt Rhum.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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My boyfriend is Haitian, and he's working today instead of celebrating. I asked him why, and he is like, Haiti is the worst country to live in that is located in western hemisphere, and he thinks most of his people are down right idiotic for celebrating a Haitian holiday while making a living on American soil. He will celebrate his culture, but he tells me he will never get behind celebrating Haiti's independence while living in another country because he feels it's just a huge joke.

What do you all think of the Haitians Americans who are celebrating today? ...
Sounds ok to me.

My ancestry is crowded with too many nationalities, otherwise I would celebrate them all. Great excuse for a party.

Even though Haiti doesn't have much to brag about right now, it was a great achievement to throw off a colonial power with literally no assistance at all from outside. The people have suffered much. They love their homeland and their people, let them enjoy it.
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If they really did feel so strongly about their country, wouldn't they still be living there?
Some of the most patriotic people in history (from any nation) have been exiles. The need to leave is sometimes forced upon us.

When I lived in China it was because I lost everything I had right here in the USA, and needed to make a fresh start. I didn't stop loving the USA over it, and yes I did celebrate July 4th and Thanksgiving. No one around me thought anything wrong with that.

The father of modern China, Sun Yat-Sen, lived in the USA much of his adult life, the love of homeland never left him. He went on to do great things for his people.

Everyone's story is unique.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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My boyfriend is Haitian, and he's working today instead of celebrating. I asked him why, and he is like, Haiti is the worst country to live in that is located in western hemisphere, and he thinks most of his people are down right idiotic for celebrating a Haitian holiday while making a living on American soil. He will celebrate his culture, but he tells me he will never get behind celebrating Haiti's independence while living in another country because he feels it's just a huge joke.

What do you all think of the Haitians Americans who are celebrating today? If they really did feel so strongly about their country, wouldn't they still be living there?
Why does he think that it’s that bad? USA is far from paradise.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Sounds ok to me.

My ancestry is crowded with too many nationalities, otherwise I would celebrate them all. Great excuse for a party.

Even though Haiti doesn't have much to brag about right now, it was a great achievement to throw off a colonial power with literally no assistance at all from outside. The people have suffered much. They love their homeland and their people, let them enjoy it.
Some of the most patriotic people in history (from any nation) have been exiles. The need to leave is sometimes forced upon us.

When I lived in China it was because I lost everything I had right here in the USA, and needed to make a fresh start. I didn't stop loving the USA over it, and yes I did celebrate July 4th and Thanksgiving. No one around me thought anything wrong with that.

The father of modern China, Sun Yat-Sen, lived in the USA much of his adult life, the love of homeland never left him. He went on to do great things for his people.

Everyone's story is unique.
I guess I can agree with this. I myself am a second generation German/Italian American immigrant. I do relish in the Italian foods and arts and the German's cars, but I don't honor the flag or the country itself in anyway. It means nothing to me, due to the fact the governments turned it's back on my family, and my family moved the USA for a fresh start. (Back then, it looked like Germany was going to win most of Europe, so the America's were the safest options for many people)
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Why does he think that it’s that bad? USA is far from paradise.
You should visit Haiti sometime...
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