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Old 01-03-2018, 07:19 AM
 
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That's just plain silly. You think we need to limit SALT but not the 20% deduction for pass through income?
https://outline.com/pckh7m Or the carried interest loophole? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nterest-pledge

Sorry but your logic just doesn't add up to me.
You're mistaken, I have not mentioned pass through income or carried interest.
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Old 01-03-2018, 07:26 AM
 
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Dont you follow news at all? Thats what state governments in democratic states have been warning about constantly over the past months. And you didnt understand what they were saying?
No, I don't really take those politicians seriously.

I'm still not convinced that it will have the stated impact of 'driving away wealthy people', but at least someone was capable of actually explaining the logic behind that argument.

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I dont understand progressives who support far right tax policies. The only logic behind it is that it can cause so much suffering at the state level that the calls for a strong expansion of federal government will be needed. Thats what the elites who push this tax bill hope wont happen because they control the courts and the money flowing into Congress.
I don't think rich people will flee high tax states because of the federal tax code. But if they do, New York and New Jersey and California will just have to raise state taxes. Big deal. Maybe California will have some sense, repeal Prop 13, and raise property taxes on all those trillions of dollars worth of oceanfront real estate.

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Old 01-03-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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prevents rent from increasing for 12 months you mean... I'm not sure where you live but I have never seen a lease for residential property longer than a year.
I don't lease, but my mom does. She has a 5 year lease.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If everyone in blue States are rich, then they must be doing something right


Well, those same blue states, also have the highest homeless rates in the nation. The middle class dwindles.


Tax, tax, tax, makes the cost to live go up, up and up. It becomes that the rich can afford it, while others are priced out of a home daily.
All taxes are passed on to the consumer.
Making $25 and hour, and you are still living on the edge of poverty in high tax & spend states.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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Well, those same blue states, also have the highest homeless rates in the nation. The middle class dwindles.


Tax, tax, tax, makes the cost to live go up, up and up. It becomes that the rich can afford it, while others are priced out of a home daily.
All taxes are passed on to the consumer.
Making $25 and hour, and you are still living on the edge of poverty in high tax & spend states.
That's certainly the case in California. The middle class along the coast has almost been hollowed out of existence.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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No, I don't really take those politicians seriously.

I'm still not convinced that it will have the stated impact of 'driving away wealthy people', but at least someone was capable of actually explaining the logic behind that argument.



I don't think rich people will flee high tax states because of the federal tax code. But if they do, New York and New Jersey and California will just have to raise state taxes. Big deal. Maybe California will have some sense, repeal Prop 13, and raise property taxes on all those trillions of dollars worth of oceanfront real estate.
There is already a work around being developed... make property taxes "Voluntary" like Income Tax and then write it all off... apparently modeled after some charitable donation scheme already used for education...

People keep saying California is a lot tax state... apparently not realizing California has just about every tax known...

Oh... my rate of 1.7% isn't what I would call low either.
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