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Old 01-02-2018, 01:05 AM
 
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The Democrats are nothing but a bunch of tribes.

Everyone neatly divided up by race, class, ethnicity, gender, cis-gender, sexual orientation, and immigration status, and pandered to accordingly.

The enemy for Democrats: white, productive, conservative, heterosexual, Christian, male, legal U.S. citizen
There are certainly divisions in the Democratic party, but nowhere near as extreme as what is taking place in the GOP. I've long thought that the GOP should have split years ago to reflect this reality.

I know why they do not (they don't want to lose control, and will deal with divisions within the party if it means they maintain control) - but that doesn't change the reality of the party's ideological splits (which on some issues are fairly large).
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:31 AM
 
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There are certainly divisions in the Democratic party, but nowhere near as extreme as what is taking place in the GOP. I've long thought that the GOP should have split years ago to reflect this reality.
The divisions in the GOP are political, not tribal.

And the division isn't between party leaders. It isn't within Congress in any significant sense. The division is between GOP leaders and politicians and the political base that voted for Trump.

Trump is not a conventional Republican or Democrat.

He is a nationalist populist with white nationalist overtones.

That goes against the globalist, multiculturalist agenda of both political parties -- the Republican ideal of globalism being oligarchical capitalist in nature, the Democratic ideal of globalism being more socialist, but still oligarchical (elitist) and capitalist.

Why is so much of the Republican base -- and some Democrats also -- defecting from the two parties and voting for Trump?

Because they have watched the agendas of the two parties being put into effect for the last fifty years, feel that they have gotten nothing, and have had enough.

The Republicans either follow the Trump voters or their party is finished as far as winning the White House is concerned. They wouldn't have won the White House without Trump. In fact, without him, they were never going to win it again because of the demographic changes in this country.

The Democrats are betting that their tribal politics -- pandering to feminists, racial minorities, and non-white immigrants in particular -- is their ticket to permanent victory.

That remains to be seen.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:43 AM
 
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Default 'Extreme tribalism' claws at the Republicans.

WASHINGTON - In Washington, President Donald Trump struggles with record-low approval ratings –– but 80 percent of Republicans rate him highly.

In Montana, Republican Greg Gianforte assaulted a reporter before a special congressional election, but he triumphed anyway, with Trump hailing his "great win."




It's not about ideology anymore. It's about loyalty to the president," Rep. Charlie Dent, a retiring Pennsylvania Republican, said Sunday on ABC's "This Week." "Now the litmus test has changed. The issue is loyalty to the man, to the president."




"To think about how many on the Christian right, the Trumpist right and elements of the Trumpist media actually supported Roy Moore despite all the things he's said and done is truly amazing," said Charlie Sykes, who was a conservative radio host in Wisconsin and is now a Trump critic and the author of the recent book, "How the Right Lost its Mind." "It can't be explained in any other way than as a sign of extreme tribalism."




'Extreme tribalism' claws at the Republicans
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:46 AM
 
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Extreme TDS claws at insanity. Read about it in "Tribal News" or MSM and be informed about the resist cult.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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Didn't I just see this thread somewhere else?
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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This is pure garbage. Look at the source ...msn! One of the most extremely biased sources there is. "Tribalism!" Please.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:54 AM
 
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I guess you didn't notice that his approval has risen about 4 points in the last two weeks. And it will likely continue to rise due to the passage of the new tax plan. LOL
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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Extreme TDS claws at insanity. Read about it in "Tribal News" or MSM and be informed about the resist cult.
I have to admit I actually did laugh out loud when I saw this post! It demonstrates just how extreme they are. If you want to call supporting the President and Republicans "tribalism," you'd better also call the Left "tribalists," to be fair. The entire "mainstream media" is so loyal to the Democrat Party they will not report on anything that makes President Trump look good. They are all negative all the time, and they stick together so much that even the words and phrases they use are identical from one source to the next. This is because they all get their talking points from the same source ...MEDIAMATTERS, funded by George Soros. That is "tribalism."
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:59 AM
 
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I guess you didn't notice that his approval has risen about 4 points in the last two weeks. And it will likely continue to rise due to the passage of the new tax plan. LOL
The collective hates the tax plan. They think all income belongs to them and they will decide how much to allow a worker to keep. They support min. wage to boost their socialist coffers. Keep them poor and keep them paying.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:59 AM
 
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I guess you didn't notice that his approval has risen about 4 points in the last two weeks. And it will likely continue to rise due to the passage of the new tax plan. LOL
I read recently that Rasmussen has shown his approval right now is exactly the same as Obama's was after his first year in office.
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