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All the shreikers discounting electric power.., lol
You keep listening to your boy Trump tout the benefits of coal and I’ll keep investing in electric and solar. You dinosaurs should rely on coal, it lines up perfectly with your beliefs.
Meanwhile, I’ll be watching my portfolio.
Nothing wrong with electric when it gets to be efficient, and economical. Electric can't generate itself, and wind, and solar just won't do it. Also, Natural Gas, and Oil is so plentiful, we don't need coal anymore, but we can still export it. There is no reason not to continue to use our fossil fuels.
Sorry..with all due respect..are you drunk? Did you even read the article? I thinbk not..or you would have not posted this silliness.
1) The batteries DO exist..as this is the entire thrust of the article.
2) They are being charged by renewable energy sources..most notably the sun..again..as noted in the article.
3) Again, as noted in the article...over 50% of California's peak energy load...is being handled by these "batteries that don't exist"..lol.
Apparently the only predictable 'unavoidable reality' that I can see..is that people will comment..without actually reading the link in question.
Did YOU even read the article you posted? The batteries DON'T currently exist. There is a pipe dream that the Tesla car batteries can fill the bill.
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Batteries may be everywhere in today’s appliances, but the scale of electricity distribution on vast utility networks still makes using power storage costly. That’s changing with the development of bigger, more efficient units that can carry a charge longer, especially in the kinds of electric vehicles manufactured by the likes of Tesla Inc.
Since 2010, Bloomberg New Energy Finance data show, the price of lithium-ion battery packs have fallen 79 percent.
Storing “considerable amounts of electricity for future use,” Paul Patterson, a utilities analyst for Glenrock Associates, said, “has the potential to significantly alter the economics of the power sector.”
They are dreaming that the expensive batteries in EVs can be scaled up thousands (millions?) of times to provide the capacity to store meaningful amounts of grid power. But you are talking gigawatt-days of energy storage! That kind of capacity does not exist. I doubt that there is enough lithium in the world to provide battery backup even just for CA, let alone a global solution.
Did YOU even read the article you posted? The batteries DON'T currently exist. There is a pipe dream that the Tesla car batteries can fill the bill.
They are dreaming that the expensive batteries in EVs can be scaled up thousands (millions?) of times to provide the capacity to store meaningful amounts of grid power. But you are talking gigawatt-days of energy storage! That kind of capacity does not exist. I doubt that there is enough lithium in the world to provide battery backup even just for CA, let alone a global solution.
They will be relying on DiLithium crystals when we get to Rigel IV.
What type of batteries? They never got into that in the article.
We only have a finite amount of exotic minerals on the planet, and materials like lithium are not practical to recyclable.
Let's say we were able to use lithium battery storage for the electric grid, it would significantly drive up costs for electricity. The USA has the wealth and power to do anything we set our minds to, but should our throw-away culture be plundering the planets resources yet again?
Lithium is hardly exotic and easily recycled. Much of our future is in battery tech, but distant and might not even be lithium based.
Lol..of course, as I'm sure you got from reading the article..err..you did did the article, right?---It is working..well...to the tune of approaching 50% of California's electric load..at peak demand. If you do not grasp the significance of this..not much I can say.
I don't have to read it to know that batteries no matter how big can not stand up to grid size power fluctuations. Drop a 1000 mw load swing on it (batteries) and their grid will collapse from undercurrent/underfreq trips. The thing the article does not tell you is that the CALISO grid is supported by two different generation resources, HYDRO electric and and a bit (@20%) of Palo Verde Nuclear. If their grid didn't have that rotating mass California would be in the dark..NO matter how much solar and wind the shove in....
Did YOU even read the article you posted? The batteries DON'T currently exist. There is a pipe dream that the Tesla car batteries can fill the bill.
They are dreaming that the expensive batteries in EVs can be scaled up thousands (millions?) of times to provide the capacity to store meaningful amounts of grid power. But you are talking gigawatt-days of energy storage! That kind of capacity does not exist. I doubt that there is enough lithium in the world to provide battery backup even just for CA, let alone a global solution.
And tesla made a demo plant of 100mw for Austrailia. While its a tiny fraction of the power needed to run a country, scaled up it could certainly cover peak demand times, or low supply times.
All the shreikers discounting electric power.., lol
You keep listening to your boy Trump tout the benefits of coal and I’ll keep investing in electric and solar. You dinosaurs should rely on coal, it lines up perfectly with your beliefs.
Meanwhile, I’ll be watching my portfolio.
Manufacturing and disposal of batteries is hugely detrimental to the environment. More so than fossil fuels.
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