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Old 01-23-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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A majority of Americans approve of DACA.

A majority of Americans want CHIP health insurance for low income children.

A majority of Americans are not in favor of Trump's worthless wall.

A majority of Americans did not want a huge tax break for corporations which added a trillion and half to the national debt.

So tell us again which party represents the will of the majority of Americans?
All FALSE, and purely your opinion. The majority of Americans want their own interests, as citizens, to be a priority. Not criminal, illegal aliens to be the priority. Your understanding of economics is also very poor, and juvenile.

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Old 01-23-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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I'm all for marijuana legalization and pro-choice myself. Also in favor of CHIP and figuring out the legal status of DACA folks.

As to the wall between East and West Germany. You do know that despite guard posts, machine guns, razor wire, ... thousands still got across.

In well traveled areas, walls funnel people to monitored crossings. We have those.

Now we are talking about a far lower rate of return for considerable cost.

Up the penalties for hiring those without e-Verify documents. It's the sensible solution that actually works.

Trump's wall is just a way to rally his racist base.

Was a decent reply until you had to insult fellow Americans that you don't even know.
Just can't get past the hate can you ?
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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Yes, I know that we are all ancestors of immigrants or slaves, but why should America cater to millions of undocumented aliens? Why do some far-left Democrats cater to undocumented aliens over American citizens of all races?

They aren't "undocumented" anything. They are illegal aliens.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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They represent American voters who want a fair way to deal with DACA kids who have grown up in the USA and didn't have a choice in coming here.

What's a fair deal? Allowing them to benefit from their parent's law breaking is not a fair deal to the American people. They can return to their homelands and apply to come back legally like legal immigrants do. If we need them after waiting their turn we'll let them know. Now that's a fair deal.
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Old 01-23-2018, 07:57 AM
 
Location: USA
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The majority of Americans want their own interests, as citizens, to be a priority. Not criminal, illegal aliens to be the priority.
Neither party represents the interests of American citizens, unless said citizens have access to billions of dollars to donate to the parties’ political campaigns.

Illegal immigration will continue because it is a source of slave labor for big business interests. If an amnesty were declared for all illegal immigrants, a lot of agricultural workers would suddenly have rights and be subject to minimum wage laws. We can’t have that; too many business would see lower profits.

The status quo will remain, because rich and powerful people benefit from it at the expense of others.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Democrats in power represent an ideology designed to create clients of the state. they do NOT support policy designed to give people freedom or independence. period. of that there is zero question.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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A majority of Americans approve of DACA.

A majority of Americans want CHIP health insurance for low income children.

A majority of Americans are not in favor of Trump's worthless wall.

A majority of Americans did not want a huge tax break for corporations which added a trillion and half to the national debt.

So tell us again which party represents the will of the majority of Americans?
Says who? Another worthless poll?

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Trump's wall is just a way to rally his racist base.
There’s the hate. They always display what they claim others are.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Only a rabid Republican bigot would even push a thread with such a title. Trying to reel in more of those with the rabid mentality who can be easily influenced by such stupidity. This is the same tactic's used by the Russian to drum up the inner racial hate and promote the ignorance of party loyalty, that ignores truth and fact within those who have the proclivities to republican ideology.
Sadly, this site is full of such types...

Many who spent their lives scraping by riding the horse of bigotry, with a costume of racist culture, pushing vile and madness, because they can't have "white skin based first entitlement to anything and everything, they are hell bent with malice, because they have to stand in the equality line like everyone else, and they don't get to walk down the street pushing minorities off the sidewalks and barring minorities from entrance.
These are the same ones who are so entrenched in lusting for "white entitlements", while trying to deny every public benefit from anyone who is not from the old system of rabid bigotry and wear the costume of the racist and act out the part.

These people have the wilds to think Trump is going to give them something, "what a joke",... when he already stands against increase in minimum wage, wants to turn their kids into indentured servants by the label of apprenticeships, and has no concern to improve access to health care, education or the insurance to care for and of their family. He has revoked the measure to mandate equal pay for women. "Evil"!!!
His own business, abusively use "temp immigrant help" at his clubs, because he does not want to pay Americans a living wage do the work he wants done, but he wants to promote his clubs as being first rate.. when he wants to charge a fortune, while paying for any temp labor from any immigrants who will subject themselves to his abusive use of them. Then he has the audacity to speak against immigrants, legal, temp or illegals. "Evil"!!!

The story of his own wife, has much question about here legality when she arrived and is claimed to have worked, before she was issued a work visa. The history of her daddy, was connected to the Communist Regime... as was Trumps daddy connected not only to the Mob, but the KKK... "Evil"!!!

Trump brings his Mob Groomed Race Bias Manner... and tries to use it to strong arm American to give him the stature of a Eastern Block Dictator. His house looks exactly like something one of the Eastern Block Dictators would create.

His evil driven family, from his pimp hustling grandfather, to the fathers family lie about their historical birth place, and any kind of swindle they could imagine to chase greed, including ripping off the government, avoiding taxes, and playing racist games to feed the greed. Evil.... is Evil...

There is no good that can be derived from Evil... Evil promotes itself by evilness....
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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Only a rabid Republican bigot would even push a thread with such a title. Trying to reel in more of those with the rabid mentality who can be easily influenced by such stupidity. This is the same tactic's used by the Russian to drum up the inner racial hate and promote the ignorance of party loyalty, that ignores truth and fact within those who have the proclivities to republican ideology.
Sadly, this site is full of such types...

Many who spent their lives scraping by riding the horse of bigotry, with a costume of racist culture, pushing vile and madness, because they can't have "white skin based first entitlement to anything and everything, they are hell bent with malice, because they have to stand in the equality line like everyone else, and they don't get to walk down the street pushing minorities off the sidewalks and barring minorities from entrance.
These are the same ones who are so entrenched in lusting for "white entitlements", while trying to deny every public benefit from anyone who is not from the old system of rabid bigotry and wear the costume of the racist and act out the part.

These people have the wilds to think Trump is going to give them something, "what a joke",... when he already stands against increase in minimum wage, wants to turn their kids into indentured servants, by the label of apprenticeships, and has no concern to improve access to health care, education or the insurance to care for and of their family. He has revoked the measure to mandate equal pay for women.
His own business, abusively use "temp immigrant help" at his clubs, because he does not want to pay Americans a living wage do the work he wants done, but he wants to promote his clubs as being first rate.. when he wants to charge a fortune, while paying for any temp labor from any immigrants who will subject themselves to his abusive use of them. Then he has the audacity to speak against immigrants, legal, temp or illegals.

The story of his own wife, has much question about here legality when she arrived and is claimed to have worked, before she was issued a work visa. The history of her daddy, was connected to the Communist Regime... as was Trumps daddy connected not only to the Mob, but the KKK...

Trump brings his Mob Groomed Race Bias Manner... and tries to use it to strong arm American to give him the stature of a Eastern Block Dictator. His house looks exactly like something one of the Eastern Block Dictators would create.

His evil driven family, from his pimp hustling grandfather, to the fathers family lie about their historical birth place, and any kind of swindle they could imagine to chase greed, including ripping off the government, avoiding taxes, and playing racist games to feed the greed. Evil.... is Evil...

There is no good that can be derived from Evil... Evil promotes itself by evilness....

Is there a TL;DR for this ?
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The Dems have been pushing us towards something that America was not designed to be and that is socialist.
Obama did tell us that he was going to fundamentally change America and he certainly tried to do that with Hillary promising to carry on.
I don't know why but the Dems seem to cringe at Nationalism and Americas Exceptionalism and they try to bring us down by allowing millions of low skilled, non english speakers to skip the legal immigration lines in order to flood our country with these poor people while many of them go onto welfare. What could go wrong there?

We already have enough people in this country that struggle to survive everyday so why are the Dems so keen on bringing in more?

The only reason why the Dems want to import millions of people has to be for their votes. What a game they are willing to play with peoples lives. We have seen similar in the black community when during election times they make promises to them and then after they vote the "promises" are forgotten.

The Dems want people to be dependent on government and all they ask for is their votes every 4 years.
If Hillary had won there is no doubt in my mind that Congress would be talking about amnesty for millions of illegal aliens right now and soon after giving them rights of a citizen.
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