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Democrats used to be much closer to republicans on this issue. Just look at Bill Clinton’s statements about illegal aliens. Hell, he even called them “illegal aliens” at the time. Even Obama in his earlier years made stronger statements about stopping illegals.
It makes you wonder what happened between then and now.
Clinton 1996 State of the Union-
"But there are some areas that the federal government should not leave and should address and address strongly. One of these areas is the problem of illegal immigration. After years of neglect, this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders. We are increasing border controls by 50 percent. We are increasing inspections to prevent the hiring of illegal immigrants. And tonight, I announce I will sign an executive order to deny federal contracts to businesses that hire illegal immigrants."
There was a time that I might have been offended by such a ridiculous statement, but you guys overplayed that card a long time ago.
Truth hurts.
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Originally Posted by magaalot
Clinton 1996 State of the Union-
"But there are some areas that the federal government should not leave and should address and address strongly. One of these areas is the problem of illegal immigration. After years of neglect, this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders. We are increasing border controls by 50 percent. We are increasing inspections to prevent the hiring of illegal immigrants. And tonight, I announce I will sign an executive order to deny federal contracts to businesses that hire illegal immigrants."
And yet not one time did he mention building a damn wall or that Mexico would pay for it.
San Diego sector has driven crossings down to almost nothing compared to what it used to be.
There are still thousands and thousands of illegals in San Diego. The wall has not stopped them from coming there. As long as there are jobs, they will continue.
Lies hurt too. But that’s just my point. It doesn’t hurt. When you make these statements, my feelings are neutral. It is just the response I expect from you, regardless of the topic.
When you keep repeating the same line over and over again, it loses any effect that it might have once had.
I believe we need a strong immigration policy, but the wall is pure folly. It will never see completion of funded and what will be built will be utterly useless.
This. The wall will be far too expensive and will not do much to stop illegal immigration.
Of course Joe Manchin would support the wall; he is up for reelection soon, and Trump won WV by the largest margin of any state. Living in WV, I know it is political suicide to be viewed as anti-Trump.
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the idea that Chuckie Schumer can negotiate with a professional negotiator like President Trump is hysterically funny. Schumer was born to lose.
Trump couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag. He is all talk and zero substance. He couldn't get a healthcare bill passed to replace the ACA even though he has a Republican-controlled Congress.
There are still thousands and thousands of illegals in San Diego. The wall has not stopped them from coming there. As long as there are jobs, they will continue.
Thus, the requirement for a better WALL. Liken to everything else, constant and never-ending improvement.
This. The wall will be far too expensive and will not do much to stop illegal immigration.
Of course Joe Manchin would support the wall; he is up for reelection soon, and Trump won WV by the largest margin of any state. Living in WV, I know it is political suicide to be viewed as anti-Trump.
WV would have elected any Republican that had won. If the Democrats hadn't turned on the coal and gas industry it would still be (D).
Joe is a (D) and as you note, he won easily and will win again.
Thus, the requirement for a better WALL. Liken to everything else, constant and never-ending improvement.
It's so much easier and cheaper to actually address the reason people come here. Again, the wall is simply a smoke screen for not doing that. Trump is not going to go after the cheap labor.
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